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Hidden in plain sight

Postby RAENORTH » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:53 pm

Seeing as we are in "snarl mode" – our default position – let's have a go at Guido Fawkes, and the latest of his asinine comments, as he laps up the Mandelson "drama". "It is a fascinating world inside the ruling elite isn't it?" twitters Guido:

Rupert Murdoch parks his yacht offshore from Nathaniel Rothschild's sunshine estate and drops in. Mandelson and Osborne take a ride in the same billionaire's boat when not dining together. All very cosy, enough to turn you into one of those crazy conspiracy theorists...

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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby Magister Aurelius » Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:32 pm

While I find most of this blog very interesting and informative especially as I reside in the U.S., the continued "snarl" mode really does just get old. I've followed not only this blog, but also followed Guido Fawkes and while it was active The Anglosphere, for nearly two years. Your "snarl" mode is entirely defensible in regards to the works of Iain Dale and Conservative Home, however, you miss a very important point when you look at the history. Guido Fawkes set up his blog as a rumor and gossip mill in the first place. In fact, his normal operating mode explains to posters that the blog is not a place for policy prescriptions or wonkery, it is all about the "tattle, tips and totties". At first Iain Dale, Conservative Home and the others were trying to be places of "wonkery" and no one paid them any mind. So in order to try and gain the traffic that Guido was generating they attempted to copy him. Rather than indicting Guido, perhaps you would be more on the mark indicting the general public. A friend I commute with emigrated from England and joined the US Coast Guard. He's told me that any thinking Englishman should get out of England, and that there aren't enough people to turn it around.
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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby crumple » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:07 pm

A little unfair?

Based on a few comments on his blog Guido does seem have a serious political side to him, but he is an Southern Irishman and therefore when he gets involved it seems to be with minority Irish Republic libertarian groups. As he is a foreigner, this is I think appropriate.

He seems to have been active in campaigning against the Lisbon treaty for example, but doesn't compete with EU focused blogs. He is focused on hatred of self serving politicians in general.

Given there seems to be a general pattern that the more dodgy/self serving the politician then the more they are likely to be up to their necks in the EU, Guido is very much on the side of the angels.

Probably naive on my part (like most of the stuff I come up with). Don't know much about him, never met him, but look forward to continuing to read him.
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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby Trevor » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:23 pm

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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby Pericles » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:25 pm

Magister,

What you wrote does have some resonance with me also, however in defence of Richard, I also must confess to blood lust and brutal savagery in some of my dealing with totalitarian, enviroMENTAL, socialist Greens. Were I Panthera leo or Panthera tigris I would slake my hunger and rage with the sinew and gristle of these dysgenic humans. Alas, I am not a shape changer and my anger must be controlled and used to defeat these politicos at every turn. Thus do we keep the message alive and disseminated through the ether, so that like minded individuals and groups can heed the call of the wild and the free. PDT_Armataz_01_40

Do I wax lyrical, or what? PDT_Armataz_01_36

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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby Sam Tarran » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:38 pm

In reference to your point about the chatterati finding real news "boring", take a look at today's priority story in the media: allegations that George Osborne asked a Russian oligarch for a donation.

With all that's going on vis a vis the financial crisis, you may have hoped for a bit of intelligence from the media. But I suppose the Heat! Magazine-style stories will always get priority.
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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby RAENORTH » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:46 pm

I've just put up another post ... putting this more into perspective. The whole Mandelson story is a crock. As for Guido, he can look after himself ... he should care about me attacking him! And he gets a few links from this site, which is a bloody sight more than I ever get from his.
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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby permanentexpat » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:05 am

Wow, Richard! What are you like when you really get stroppy? PDT_Armataz_01_23
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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby RAENORTH » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:58 am

permanentexpat wrote:Wow, Richard! What are you like when you really get stroppy? PDT_Armataz_01_23


I'm a pussycat really. Ask Helen.
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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby SandyRham » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:17 am

I can seriously sympathize with the good Dr.'s attitude. Although my temperament and training has a very much higher Saxon index so I prefer an efficient compromise to violent confrontation ( which northerners and assorted Celts call being a southern softie and other more derogatory terms) I do have to agree that nothing is changing. Our political parties are saying the same as the MSM in the hope we'll believe black is white if we are told often enough.
This is the call I want to hear, the banner I wish to follow, I yet cower from carrying it.

""The Saxon is not like us Normans. His manners are not so polite.
But he never means anything serious till he talks about justice and right.
When he stands like an ox in the furrow with his sullen set eyes on your own,
And grumbles, 'This isn't fair dealing,' my son, leave the Saxon alone."

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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby nottoobrite » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:42 am

Comment,
If those politicians that can read spent 23.99 hours a day reading this blog nothing would change, there collective intelligence would not motivate an ant. (And the rant from Trevor above? is he a politician? )
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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby chig » Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:14 pm

Trevor wrote:DELETED

Trevor


Why was Trevor's post deleted ??
Was it by himself or a site moderator ?

His views were certainly vehement but shouldn't he be taken to task on them (and dissected thereafter if necessary....if it hasn't been done before, on the Forum ?)
Or, even worse, if he was correct.....not that i'm leading to any suggestions, mind you....just wonderin', all round !
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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby RAENORTH » Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:54 pm

chig wrote:
Trevor wrote:DELETED

Trevor


Why was Trevor's post deleted ??
Was it by himself or a site moderator ?

His views were certainly vehement but shouldn't he be taken to task on them (and dissected thereafter if necessary....if it hasn't been done before, on the Forum ?)
Or, even worse, if he was correct.....not that i'm leading to any suggestions, mind you....just wonderin', all round !


Red is the colour reserved for the moderator on this board. I missed the post earlier - don't know why, as I try to read everything posted - or it would have been taken straight down. I'm not going to allow barely concealed anti-semitism on this site, just as I am not having rants about wiping out Moslems.
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Re: Hidden in plain sight

Postby chig » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:21 am

RAENORTH wrote:
chig wrote:
Trevor wrote:DELETED

Trevor


Why was Trevor's post deleted ??
Was it by himself or a site moderator ?

His views were certainly vehement but shouldn't he be taken to task on them (and dissected thereafter if necessary....if it hasn't been done before, on the Forum ?)
Or, even worse, if he was correct.....not that i'm leading to any suggestions, mind you....just wonderin', all round !


Red is the colour reserved for the moderator on this board. I missed the post earlier - don't know why, as I try to read everything posted - or it would have been taken straight down. I'm not going to allow barely concealed anti-semitism on this site, just as I am not having rants about wiping out Moslems.



Harsh....(or not).....but i think Trevor's (angry) post could have been taken to case.
The reply that i posted (Oct 14th) on the 'Financial Crisis Posts' [Page 17] relates to the issue of multi-culturalism that is prevalent in Britain today (as elsewhere in Europe), and, thus, pushing the 'Unity' (political, financial and cultural) agenda.
This is not a case for pushing hate-fuelled actions/views but is a reminder that unless we all stop the denial then we will be in one big melting pot before we know it (in fact, we almost certainly are), with no way of getting out.

People in Britain are mad at this loss of cultural identity, but, as in the MPs/MEPs issue that you have recently posted, unless action is taken then there is no hope for change - for realising our own (country's) destiny/path.....thus, the main reason i am posting about the deletion of Trevor's post is that his point of view could have been re-directed......however, after all that, if he was still spouting hate then, fair enough, let it go ???!!!!
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