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 Post subject: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:00 pm 
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A few days ago we wrote about a political disease called "futuritis" – the affliction which causes politicians to ignore to problems of today, while they focus on the sunlit uplands of some mythical future, when everything comes right.

Today, in the persona of our revered leader, Mr Gordon Brown, we see evidence of another, equally debilitating disease which we shall call "Tranzitis". This is manifest as a compulsion to ignore domestic issues – and home-grown solutions to problems which affect the nation. Instead, politicians look for international or preferably global solutions which they can apply to their own domains.

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 Post subject: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:34 pm 
According to FinancialAdvice.co.uk, in their edition of Sunday 25th January 2009, "UK taxpayers may be forced to bail out euro members". See below:
http://financialadvice.co.uk/news/11/ta ... mbers.html

Here is the article's full text:
"In a move which will again highlight the problems with EU regulations and laws, it has been revealed that the UK may well be forced to assist with the bailout of EU member countries who have taken the euro as their currency. Despite the fact that the UK has not yet joined the euro there appears to be small print in the European Union treaty which allows EU regulators to force EU members to contribute to any potential bailout.

When you consider that countries such as Ireland, Spain and Greece are in serious financial difficulties at the moment there is every chance that the UK government could be asked to "chip in" with substantial funding figures. Whether this luxury would be afforded to the UK if the economy continues to fall is unclear but this news will blow apart the Labour government's claim that the European Union treaty is not detrimental to the UK taxpayer.

As yet there has been no call for EU members to contribute to a bailout fund but with the situation worsening across Europe, and money tighter than ever, many expect plans to be put into action over the coming months. Quite how much the UK might be asked to contribute is a little unclear at this moment in time but interestingly, even though the UK has regularly used its veto for the good of the country, there are no vetoes available for this potential EU rescue funding requirement."

Frankly, if Brown were to be so stupid as to agree to this, then that surely would be the end of him - & also the Labour Party for a generation! If the loathesome EU does try to pressure Britain over this, then Brown should offer Britain a referendum on the issue. And if the EU should then try to over-rule the almost inevitable UK-referendum "No" vote, then Britain should pay no more contributions at all to EU funds until the avaricious EU backs off completely!

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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:08 pm 

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Apart from being just more spin, to try and divert opinion away from the ongoing train wreck at home, he is yet again proveing to us all, that he should be banged up in Rampton and the key thrown away.

What he and his ilk can't and wont envisage, is that their idiot tinkering, created the circumstances that allowed the Bankers to go mad and now no matter what they do, the Mkt is going to teach them all a terrible lesson.


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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:04 pm 

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FU (Fed Up) wrote:
the Mkt is going to teach them all a terrible lesson.

I wish I could share your optimism, FU. The markets will not punish “them”, with their bloated state salaries and index linked pensions. “We”- those whose livelihoods depend on the private means of generation of wealth and/or who have accumulated even modest amounts of private wealth – we will take a hammering.


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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:19 pm 

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Chances are He did call for reform. It's what politicians do and he won't have been alone in calling for it. The problems stem from the fact they actually got it.

The reform came in at least three strands: Increased and more complex regulations (to look like they were doing something), insufficient enforcement of those regulations (the so called 'light touch') and loosening of credit (to make it appear that the reform was working). Too much carrot and a stick wielded by civil servants who didn't know what they were doing.

Since then Brown has continually chirped for reforms of one sort or another - ever eager to look like he's solving problems rather actually solving them and always, always shifting the goalposts to avoid being taken to task on things. In many respects his time at the Treasury is one great illusion. Swallowing his own rhetoric he truly believes the UK was prosperous. Was it really? Growth has been funded by banks and people turning housing into a cash machine. The imperial financial majesty of London has been in part because of changes of law elsewhere, leaving the UK as an ideal haven for shysters and con men. He was warned. Even the IMF spoke up more than once about our levels of indebtedness. But no. Gord was always already ahead of the game and looking at the next problem he believed needed solving.

Credit expansion and make work projects were FDR's solution to the Great Depression. We've already had a decade of that in the UK and all we've got to show for it are debts. Where has all the money gone?


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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:28 pm 
As hinted by the PM during his speech, the New World Order, harbinger of one world government, will be put in train at the next G8 meeting.
You could not have engineered it better, could they?


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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:00 pm 
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However, the diseased mind cannot cure itself. We need an antibiotic – it is called "nationalism".

I thought that was a dirty word in the UK...associated with only party which seemingly gives a toss.
...and I agree wholeheartedly with ELF's remarks on lesson-learning.
Unsupported by unfettered troughing during their sinecures followed by cornucopian early (not enough!) retirement pensions at its expense, the British public fails miserably in the learning curve. We simply don't do learning, else the lamp-post business would be in full flower.
Lots of whingeing...the rest is a deadening apathy.

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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:51 pm 

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Elf.

Unfortunately true, McSnot will not starve to death....though he will be howled down, whenever he opens his cretinous mouth.


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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:39 pm 
"We simply don't do learning, else the lamp-post business would be in full flower."

Oh we do,.It is just that we try them and behead them,we are buggers for etiquette.


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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:19 pm 
Does Gordo still believe that there are people who believe anything at all that he says? I suppose he must do, otherwise he would not say them.

I have yet to meet such a person. Recent conversations wth people from many different walks of life suggest to me that no one has any faith whatsoever in politicians or bankers. Indeed the distrust is all too evident.

(I wonder if Obama would take Brown from us if we agree to a assist with a couple of the Guantanamo inmates?)

Things could get very interesting. Maybe too interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:36 pm 

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Some of these politicians are like racing pundits.
That is, whatever events unfold, they have already given a Delphic style oracle that that was what could happen.
In the racing press you get the phrases like, "probably will be in the frame, will trouble the leaders, will be there or thereabouts,due to run a good race, connections say he will be winning one soon,cannot be easily dismissed " and all the others.
"Precipitation in sight" is a weathermans version.


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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:15 pm 
Robin wrote:
Some of these politicians are like racing pundits.
That is, whatever events unfold, they have already given a Delphic style oracle that that was what could happen.
In the racing press you get the phrases like, "probably will be in the frame, will trouble the leaders, will be there or thereabouts,due to run a good race, connections say he will be winning one soon,cannot be easily dismissed " and all the others.
"Precipitation in sight" is a weathermans version.

The equivalent in science is the unfalsifiable theory — one which no amount of evidence can contradict. A junk theory in other words.

Unfortunately, all scientific theories can be made unfalsifiable in practice by pushing the contradictions away from the core idea(s) and out against the protective shield of ancillary hypotheses and lesser theories.

For example, in Galileo's day if one held the view ('theory') that the planets had no satellites and Galileo said he'd seen some around Jupiter with his telescope, all one had to do was call in question the theory of his telescope and say that all that he were observing was an artefact of his apparatus. Yak yak yak. No end to this game.

And, of course, the vaguer you make your theory the more opportunities there are for dodging hard tests.

The marxist so-called scientific theory of history was just such junk. Freud was up there too.

It seems all fakers play this game.


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It should be noted, however, that unfortunately things are never simple. Lest one think otherwise, falsifiablilty, in any simple form, is not that good a criterion. Things are always more complicated.

The orbit of Uranus didn't go according to Newton's plan. So was he wrong? No. Adams and Leverrier kept the 'Newtonian faith' and found a way out. They hypothesised a new planet and calculated the mass and orbit it would need to give the so far unexplained perturbations in Uranus's orbit. ["Peturbations of Uranus". Nice expression. Ed.] Bingo! That's how Neptune was discovered. Newton notched up another triumph.

So what then about the anomalous discrepancy of 43 seconds of arc per century in the precession of the perihelion of Mercury? Should one keep the Newtonian faith again and wait until some sharp-minded scientist finds an explanation? Not in this case. Dump Newton and go with Einstein who explained the discrepancy perfectly, but using his own theory of gravitation. Of course Newtonian mechanics and his universal law of gravitation weren't really that wrong — they just had their limits. Newton's was the limiting case of Einstein's general theory. A rather nice epitaph for it.

Marx and others, however, didn't fare so well. And rightly so. Ignominy is theirs.


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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:22 pm 

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Hard to follow such a learned post as John's. PDT_Armataz_01_34
However, I will publish a report here of a very severe case of tranzitis.

This was published today on his blog by the Swedish FM Mr Carl Bildt. (Translated by M.)

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What we lost by being outside

That we have lost by being outside the Euro-cooperation, I personally find quite evident. Now more detailed studies carried out by Harry Flam (A link - but the wrong one takes you to an article about M Abbas. However, the article was published in Dagens Nyheter, but it is not worth spending time on. Ed.) - who is the person in Sweden who knows these things - show the extent of the losses we have made.
To this one could add the question of the importance of some stability of currency rates. Theoreticians may have diverging opinions, but it ought to be possible also for a practitioner of international cooperation and trade to express ones opinion that stability has important advantages.
And Finland has not been doing too badly these years.


OK, let us forget all the writings by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, or the fact that even the FT, and the pro-euro Swedish newspapers are beginning to discuss the possibility that certain countries may be forced out of the Eurozone due to their precarious financial situations - caused in no small part by long periods of totally inadequate interest rates set by the ECB. Let us just look at what this "practitioner of international cooperation and trade" accomplished when he was our PM 1991-1994. The Swedish crown had to remain tied to the ECU, and nothing, not even an interbank lending rate of 500% (!!) could force Mr Bildt to change his policy. The result was a collapse of our banking system, a galloping unemployment and a recession that so far is unequalled in our post-war history. (The oil crises are hardly noticeable compared to the Bildt/ecu recession.) One must hope that Mr Bildt soon will be given the only remedy available for tranzitis: a permanent retirement from all political and NGO positions.

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Swedish GDP 1950 - 2007. Index year 2000 = 100


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 Post subject: Re: The tranzi disease
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:39 pm 

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mikgen.

Thankyou, I had not looked up the reason why you had your banking crisis, as yr remedy is being trumpeted regularly over here, needless to say McSnot has ignored it......but now the scales fall from my eyes and I see the reason....Yet again the EU's dread hand, which of course is never mentioned, when discussing as to why you ended up in such a mess.

Question to all.

In the case of a Tranzi/EUWhore, which is thicker, their skin or their skull.


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