Gaza thread

[harris]

Heads up! Littlegreenfootballs has the story on the fake video of a palestinian filming his brother's death

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article ... /comments/

CNN Video removed

[harris]

Same on Channel 4:

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/p ... th/2897187

The Camera man is called home, then they are sitting on the coach with the boy for some time, then they are in the hospital.

[mikgen]

Heads up! Littlegreenfootballs has the story on the fake video of a palestinian filming his brother's death

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article ... /comments/

CNN Video removed

Great find! Absolutely fake - remember Mads Gilbert (the Norwegian doctor) is an anesthesiologist, and he is just lumbering around without trying to help the guy doing "heart compressions", what about ventilation?

Anyway, what did you mean with "video removed"? Removed from CNN? because I could still find on LGF.

Here is another movie showing Hamas boasting about how they use civilans as human shields:
video

[mikgen]

Harris,

Here is another one (not video though). Earlier today UNWRA called off their aid transports because one of the drivers was killed. According to the UNWRA/Red Cross it was an Israeli tank shell. Not so according to the Israel National News:

Hamas Killed UNRWA Driver
Reported: 20:31 PM - Jan/08/09

(IsraelNN.com) Hamas snipers killed a United Nations worker who was driving a supply truck into Gaza, a MDA medic said Thursday evening. The medic evacuated two wounded UN workers to Barzilai hospital in Ashkelon.
The medic based his report on testimony from IDF soldiers, who went into Gaza to rescue the two wounded Arab workers. The workers suffered gunshot wounds.
The UN blamed Israel for the attack, saying the driver was killed by an IDF tank shell.

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A more detailed story from the JPost. The details are not fully clear yet. However, no doubt you will be able to differ between wounds caused by guns-shoots or a tank shell, so the truth will come out. Of course the MSM and the UN will not wait for that:

Uncertainty shrouds UN driver's death

According to the foreign media, who based their information on UN sources, IDF tank shells blasted the truck. According to the Magen David Adom medic who said he evacuated the Palestinians to an Israeli hospital, the truck came under Hamas sniper fire. The medic, who asked not to be named, said he got his information from soldiers in the field. The IDF Spokesperson's Office has not been able to provide a response or establish contact with the relevant sources in the field.

Adding to the confusion, the Palestinian Red Crescent said it evacuated the Palestinians, but the MDA medic said soldiers told him they went in, with great risk to themselves, and evacuated the wounded Palestinians. What is certain is that there is one dead Palestinian, and two others being treated at Ashkelon's Barzilai Hospital with gunshot wounds to the chest.

The incident occurred Thursday afternoon at the Erez crossing into the northern Gaza Strip, the main entrance used by humanitarian aid agencies to funnel badly needed food and medical supplies into Gaza.

Of course it wouldn't have been the first time the Hamas has attacked aid transports at the Eretz crossing.

Behind the Headlines: Hamas holding Gaza population hostage

[harris]

I saw the statement of John Ging UNRWA on CNN.
He couldn't convince me that the drivers possibly could have recognized who was shooting at them.
E.g. he said that the convoi shot shot at shortly after leaving the erez crossing.
It merely seems to me that he was accusing the Israelis of not having protected the convoi from any shooting.

[harris]

This is a CBS video (during an interview with Mads Gilbert). But Video is important.
It shows the arrival of two cars at a hospital with supposedly injured persons. You see not a single wound which couldn't be painted on. You clearly see twice a person with assault rifle (I think it is the same person) and once another person with a rifle. You see a lot of men with ski masks on their heads. At the end I think you can see a man (standing in the hallway) smiling at two men walking down this hallway.

(scroll down)
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Norwegian ... _0105.html

[Robert of Ottawa]

I didn't see one body of a dead chuild in that video. No blood; no corpses; no children. They also were, apparently lying all over the place in different directions. Why was the blue hooded lady jumping up and down clapping and, apparently, cheering?

[permanentexpat]

Ah! The well-known fog of war in whch the first casualty is the truth...that's my two clichésworth...but whenever I see or hear ".....among whom were many women & children," I puke.
I am dehydrated & have lost both weight & appetite. Desist FFS.

[harris]

This is a CBS video (during an interview with Mads Gilbert). But Video is important.
It shows the arrival of two cars at a hospital with supposedly injured persons. You see not a single wound which couldn't be painted on. You clearly see twice a person with assault rifle (I think it is the same person) and once another person with a rifle. You see a lot of men with ski masks on their heads. At the end I think you can see a man (standing in the hallway) smiling at two men walking down this hallway.

(scroll down)
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Norwegian ... _0105.html

In the first video there a red haired man.

Same one here with cap and yellow west?

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=eyvL2Uk7I ... re=related

[davebreau]

Red jacket looks like green helmet. Is it the same guy?

[sonomaca]

Why is it that the countries in Europe with the fewest Jews (Norway, Sweden, Spain, Ireland, Greece) really seem to hate Israel and love Hamas the most? I know the former have growing and restive Muslim populations and concomitant political pressure. Does that explain the apparent pathology?

[wer]

A note to the blog entry “I don't think they understand”:

The Czech minister is called Schwarzenberg, not to confuse with Schwarzenegger who is the Governor of California.

[gareth]

Same on Channel 4:

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/p ... th/2897187

The Camera man is called home, then they are sitting on the coach with the boy for some time, then they are in the hospital.

It doesn't look to be in chronological order - the narration includes the suggestion the lad may already be dead when you see the cameraman sat in a living room holding his brother. This suggests to me that Channel4 have been provided with a piece they didn't edit. Otherwise, they'd have seen enough footage to know wouldn't they? At the very least the family would be wanting to help keep him alive or take him to hospital.

I don't like how the presenter frames the video as either proof Israel is 'responding in kind' to indiscriminate attacks on civilians or that Israel wants to use overwhelming force on Hamas without concern to civilian victims. Neither appears to be the case.

It's been suggested the man in the red jacket illustrating the blog post resembles Green Helmet Guy. I'd say the man in glasses seen sat at the hospital, in the background of the burial, front and centre in the back of the car and getting to his feet in the living room shot does too.(Or rather, looks like the man in the red jacket.)

[RAENORTH]

"The family were keen that the story of what happened to them today should be told...".

You bet!

[mikgen]

Here is a video that will never be shown on the BBC, never mentioned by the MSM papers etc etc.

“Hamas terrorists kill innocent Palestinian in Gaza (Rare Video) (Must See)”

Helen, has written about the rather lukewarm support for Hamas by Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the PA. Maybe this video can go some way to explain it.

Warning: Gratuitous violence