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 Post subject: What are politicians for?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:47 pm 
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We saw the financial crisis coming, we predicted the armoured vehicles in Iraq and Afghanistan were dangerously vulnerable, we predicted that we were in for a spell of cold weather, we predicted trouble with Russia, and we predicted that there would a further eruption of violence in the Congo. And we are predicting a major shortfall in electricity supplies.

That is not to claim any great prescience or even to claim that we were, by any means, the only ones. Even on our great cause celebre, the Snatch Land Rovers, we were by no means the first to raise concerns.

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Dear Richard , Would you like to share the winning numbers for tomorrows lottery, I could do with some good fortune .


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 Post subject: Re: What are politicians for?
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Clarity of thought and intellectual curiosity are qualities which must be eliminated, if one would be a UK politician! What other explanation could there be to explain why the Rsoles of Westminster voted to cut CO2 emissions by 80% before 2050 AD; VEN IT VAS SNOVINK IN LONDON? They have to have been lobotomised and if I had my way with them, I'd complete their treatments by topping and tailing them all. PDT_Armataz_01_27 PDT_Armataz_01_28 PDT_Armataz_01_30 PDT_Armataz_01_37
Gott mit Uns, as we say in Prussia. PDT_Armataz_01_41

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:43 pm 
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Not me, guv. I'm predictin' nuffink. Except that I shall be making lemon marmalade of some kind this week-end. PDT_Armataz_01_28 PDT_Armataz_02_01


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 Post subject: Re: What are politicians for?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:45 pm 
Rejoice! Brown has sent the boy Gollum to a dangerous place,any luck and his head will come back on a stick.


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 Post subject: Re: What are politicians for?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:11 am 

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Richard,
It is in those resources that the problem lies. As the old saying had it,GIGO-garbage in,garbage out. When the advisory experts all think the same,have the same assumptions and can stifle any internal dissent we end up w/consistantly staggering incompetence we see displayed in government today.
Makes me wish for the return of the old "Spoils System" in the US. Yes they might stuff their pockets,but they were held accountable for getting things done and the dead weight of institutional group-think didn't take root.


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 Post subject: Re: What are politicians for?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:19 am 

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Gott mit Uns, as we say in Prussia.

That was just a throw away line, but what goes around, comes around. PDT_Armataz_01_41

From Mark Mardell.
"Go into any high street bookshop in Britain and the European history section will groan under the weight of books about the Nazi era. Most of the time you will look in vain for something on Bismarck or Brandt. (If you are lucky there might be a copy of the excellent Iron Kingdom, by Christopher Clark, about the rise and fall of Prussia.)

Of course the Third Reich and World War II are an exceptionally important part of Germany's past. But generations afterwards many British, whistling the theme from The Dambusters, seem happy to define their relationship to Europe's biggest country solely through this prism. The Faulty Towers "don't mention the war" episode was so brilliant because it was about a British, not a German, collective psychosis. But that I have written about elsewhere. "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters ... angst.html

Gott mit Uns indeed. PDT_Armataz_01_35

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 Post subject: Re: What are politicians for?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:46 pm 

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What other explanation could there be to explain why the Rsoles of Westminster voted to cut CO2 emissions by 80% before 2050 AD


It is very difficult to see any logic behind this. The only explanation I can come up with is that it is related to the nuclear power station construction project. The greenies are are bound to be happy with this target, but are also bound to be up in arms about the nuclear programme. The government can counter by stating that without nuclear the targets can't be met. Or is this just an accidental by product?


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 Post subject: Re: What are politicians for?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:29 pm 

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Come, come, Richard ! It is not a case of politicians with massive research and support staff not spotting the obvious forthcoming crises. If they deliberately allow themselves to be taken by surprise by the latest 'crisis' in another part of the World it makes for good Press coverage. The Press running around day to day covering the latest crisis, in full colour, are focusing on that crisis so they are not covering such boring day to day subjects as the abject missgovernance of this country, our massive indebtedness caused by Brown's financial incompetence etc, etc.

For all we know Miliband might have been warned weeks ago by FCO staff on the ground in Rwanda and Congo that their was going to be another invasion. It is of course much better for distracting the Press to claim to be taken by surprise by the latest 'crisis' and fly out to Congo on a plane full of journalists. It is we are told 'a massive humanitarian crisis' (this statement is by the BBC so it must be the truth !). It is so serious that they have relocated Olga Guerin to covering the Congo, relocating her from Zimbadwe where she was covering the previous 'massive humanitarian crisis' and the malgovernance of Comrade R Mugabe. What else did you expect the 'novice' Miliband to say 'Actually, chaps, we knew this was coming weeks ago but there was f*** all we, the EU or the UN could do to stop it'. He couldn't say that could he ?

Two further examples. It is becoming increasingly obvious that Brown and Darling knew months ago that the Icelandic bank systems were going to collapse but they have claimed that they were taken by surprise by the collapse. Of course if they stood outside Landsbanki UK with placards 'Don't put your funds into Icelandic Banks. They are worse than Northern Rock. We should know we are the experts' what would have happened. Their would have been a run on the banks, the Iceland economy would still have collapsed. The Icelanders would have blamed British Govt. economic sabotage. Brown and Darling decided it was a better Press coverage to play at being taken by 'surprise'.

You have mentioned the increasingly obvious chance of major power shortages this winter. If the Govt raised this now it would allow weeks of Press focus on how we got into this situation. This would have lead to questions about the Blair Govt's failure to tackle infrastructure decisions for a whole decade. Gordon couldn't get out of this as he held the second highest office in the land throughout the Blair Govt. In fact he claimed that for the last year of Blair's term of office he was effectively 'co prime minister'. So mentioning the subject in advance of actual power cuts would not have many positive results from New Labour's point of view. They cannot get new power stations built overnight. All giving advance warning would do is cause panic, push up energy costs and cause Gordon to have to answer some inconvenient questions (T Blair isn't an MP anymore so he isn't in that inconvenient situation).


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 Post subject: Re: What are politicians for?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:54 pm 

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You have mentioned the increasingly obvious chance of major power shortages this winter. If the Govt raised this now it would allow weeks of Press focus on how we got into this situation.


Which is what any Government will do......but where is the Opposition, as it's their job to point out Government failings.....especially the Not the Tory Party. Unfortunately they are too busy sitting at Green Peace's knee, knodding in agreement, at every crack pot utterance.


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 Post subject: Re: What are politicians for?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:45 pm 

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For making honest people miserable:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/200 ... stasi.html


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 Post subject: Re: What are politicians for?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:17 pm 
I would like to disagree with the 'energy shortage' idea. There won't be shortages in the sense that there won't be electricity, but there will be shortages of money, which will bar a large amount of people from using electricity -- so no shortage at all will take place, there will be plenty to go round for the few that have the readies to pay for it. And it conveniently also brings the whole range of emissions into line.


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