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 Post subject: Oppression begins at home
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:16 am 
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Courtesy of the Irish Times, we get some entertaining comments from businessman Ulick McEvaddy.

Chief executive of Omega Air, he is barely known outside his native Ireland but was a "big cheese" in the Irish "no" campaign. And yesterday he was holding forth at the Humbert summer school in Ballina, Co Mayo, where delegates were raking over the fate of the <s>constitutional</s> Lisbon treaty.

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 Post subject: Re: Oppression begins at home
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:21 am 

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Fair comment.

Its not necessarily the unknown factor that is scary; but more the fact that we are not being told.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:57 am 
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Its not necessarily the unknown factor that is scary; but more the fact that we are not being told
,,,pray tell me the difference in words that I may be able to understand &cherish. The weird wavers with the funny thirties hats on lenin's gruft differ only sartorially from the EU politburo,...and how many of these unelected illuminati are former(?) communists and linke-orientated gennossen believe that, like their geriatric Kremlin forebears, Right is theirs alone. PDT_Armataz_02_37

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 Post subject: Re: Oppression begins at home
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:59 am 
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So who's side is Mr McEvaddy actually on? He is obviously happy with the EU ruling Europe because he wants a European version of the US constitution. He obviously doesn't want Ireland to be a free independent state.


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 Post subject: Re: Oppression begins at home
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:38 am 
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Stuart wrote:
So who's side is Mr McEvaddy actually on? He is obviously happy with the EU ruling Europe because he wants a European version of the US constitution. He obviously doesn't want Ireland to be a free independent state.


Good point ... at the very least he is one mixed-up bunny. At worst, he is part of the problem, clearly lacking understanding as to the nature of the EU and its dynamics. If you accept that one of the most essential requirements for a successful campaign is to "know your enemy", he is not even off first base.

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 Post subject: Re: Oppression begins at home
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:13 am 
In one respect he might be right though. The leaders and government ministers of the republics that made up the Soviet Republic did have to look to Moscow. Our leaders seem the same. At least, they do seem to in the UK. It`s as though they cannot allow themselves to think honestly about this project. If the spiv Cameron gets into powe(or the trappings of power) and was shown incontravertable proof that the EU was no good for the UK, and other truths about it, do you see him doing anything more than say In Europe But Not Run By It, or any of the other rubbish that Conservative politicians say when talking about the EU ?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:06 pm 

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RAENORTH wrote:
Time and time again, we have pointed out that the commission rules only through and with the permission of the parliaments of the member states, and with the connivance of their governments. It is not the brooding presence of a Soviet-style politburo but our own governments and MPs who conspire together to foist the rule of the EU upon us.

As for a politburo, the nearest thing is the much-misunderstood European Council, comprising the heads of states and governments of the member states. They are the people who hold this construct together and it is they who manipulate and exploit the system to circumvent our democratic structures and lines of accountability.


Sound. It is too easy just blaming Brussels for all the dangerous madness forced on us because we simply find ourselves alongside the political class which also uses Brussels as scapegoat. Our fire should be on all our own politicians and it will need a public crusade headed by UKIP and all other eurorealists. The Tories are as culpable as the Lib/Lab.


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