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 Post subject: A political earthquake
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:09 pm 
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"No-one can possibly underestimate the scale of the disaster which hit Gordon Brown and the Labour Party in the Glasgow East constituency in the early hours of this morning," writes Angus Macleod, Scottish Political Editor for The Times.

He is one of the many journos hyper-ventilating over the result, declared in the early hours of this morning, long after most sensible people had gone to bed. This had the SNP overturn Labour’s 13,507 majority to bring in the hitherto unknown John Mason into prominence as the victor.

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 Post subject: Re: A political earthquake
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:02 pm 
The thing is do we care? So the Liarbour Party is done for, but they will only be replace by another lot of useless, selfish, arrogant, greedy thieving bastards who will just continue the the decline of our once great Country.


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 Post subject: Re: A political earthquake
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:44 pm 
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Salvador wrote:
The thing is do we care? So the Liarbour Party is done for, but they will only be replace by another lot of useless, selfish, arrogant, greedy thieving bastards who will just continue the the decline of our once great Country.


I think that is very much the point. At the margins, the CP may be different but, as far as the big issues go, there will be very little difference between New Lab and the Conservatives, not least because our supreme government remains in Brussels. Thus do we both refer to the (any) administration being in office, rather than in power. And it is very difficult to get excited about that!

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 Post subject: Re: A political earthquake
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What is going to be much more interesting, is how the country will react, when they realise that a change in Government, means no change.

The BNP could become the next major opposition, unless a new party springs up......if nothing else that would drive the chateratti bonkers.


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 Post subject: Re: A political earthquake
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:52 pm 
Oh come one.let's just have a gloat.We can take the toys away from these mountebanks.We can make Gordon Brown sing "Daisy."


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 Post subject: Re: A political earthquake
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Hmm I'm not convinced the political market is dead. Assuming Labour and the economy don't stage a miraculous recovery, I can easily imagine Brown thinking - "maybe we should try the representation thing" to avoid electoral annihilation . There's an interesting take on the Glasgow result from Prof. Stott relating to green taxes, Cameron beware.

“With ... core voters counting the rising cost of green taxes, tariffs and restrictions, the Labour Party’s chances of re-election are dwindling. Labour’s fundamental miscalculation has been to bank on the strength of the environmental movement and climate change anxiety in an attempt to ‘modernize’ its agenda. Labour’s climate policy, however, is now backfiring, turning into one of its biggest political liabilities.” (Dr. Benny Peiser, May 27)


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 Post subject: Re: A political earthquake
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:25 pm 
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Hmm I'm not convinced the political market is dead. Assuming Labour and the economy don't stage a miraculous recovery, I can easily imagine Brown thinking - "maybe we should try the representation thing" to avoid electoral annihilation . There's an interesting take on the Glasgow result from Prof. Stott relating to green taxes, Cameron beware.

“With ... core voters counting the rising cost of green taxes, tariffs and restrictions, the Labour Party’s chances of re-election are dwindling. Labour’s fundamental miscalculation has been to bank on the strength of the environmental movement and climate change anxiety in an attempt to ‘modernize’ its agenda. Labour’s climate policy, however, is now backfiring, turning into one of its biggest political liabilities.” (Dr. Benny Peiser, May 27)


And Mr Cameron is not going to make the same "fundamental miscalculation"? Mr Cameron is going to ignore the EU renewables target? Mr Cameron is going to renounce greenery?

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 Post subject: Re: A political earthquake
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:20 pm 
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Or as Hilaire Belloc wrote in 1906 or so:

The accursed power which stands on Privilege
(And goes with Women, and Champagne and Bridge)
Broke - and Democracy resumed her reign:
(Which goes with Bridge and Women and Champagne).


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 Post subject: Re: A political earthquake
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:42 am 
OK, call me pedantic but didn't he really mean "No-one can possibly *over*estimate..."


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 Post subject: Re: A political earthquake
PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:51 pm 
There is perhaps one way for the frying Scot to lower the heat in the kitchen: announce that there will be a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.

He should make the announcement next week.

Half the Labour Party and a good many Tories would back the move.

The Cameron Kid would be thrown into confusion.

The ensuing 'No' vote would empower the PM to withdraw the UK from the expensive farrago of the EU. Remember, for the last God knows how many years its budget has not been ratified due to unexplained irregularities.

Just a thought on a hot summer day -

pip, pip.


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