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 Post subject: Retreat to victory Part I & II / Why we cannot win
PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:09 pm 
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Euroscepticism is dead. It is not official yet, and the putative corpse is still breathing. If it was a human being, it would be on life support, showing no brain activity. The relatives would be gathering round, discussing when to switch off the machine and whether any of its organs could be suitable for donation.

Through these coming weeks, I intend to run a series of posts exploring why we are about to be confronted with a corpse, why euroscepticism failed and what we need to do about it (interspersed with our usual fare). Then, at a suitable moment, we may consider winding up EU Referendum.

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Retreat to Victory (Part I) HERE.

Retreat to Victory (Part II) HERE.

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:22 pm 
Arrrrrggggghhhhhhh.......


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:10 pm 

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How do we 'wake the dead' ?


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:23 pm 

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But will the whole thing collapse under it's own hypocrisy? I DO hope that you will not give up completely on drawing our attention to the calamity that is the EU, I turn to you (and Mr C. Booker) for the truth about it all.


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:28 pm 

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Questions:

Once Lisbon comes into effect will not Britain's defense policy decisions eventually be shifted to Bruxelles?

Will Europe ever evolve it's own world-class defense capability? What threats does Europe face in the future, aside from the ever-present Jihadist one? Russia seems unlikely to play pat-a-cake with peace studies types who currently run the EU.


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:43 pm 

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I didn't think you were a quitter, your blog will be sadly missed.


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:48 pm 

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EUrosceptism isn`t dead . The means to fight the project might be limited, the organisation of the spirit might be fractured, hope for some might be lost , leadership might be found wanting and forward planning nonexistence.
Eurosceptism will get bigger as the project grows, though.


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 Post subject: Why we cannot win
PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:03 pm 
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Sad news.

Perhaps the cavalry will arrive in the nick of time as in the best westerns.

I am sure that many appreciate your efforts to expose the horror that calls itself the EU. Your blog will be sadly missed.

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 Post subject: Change, but don't quit, please
PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:11 pm 
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Even if the referendum issue per se is, well, passé, you could maintain this invaluable blog+forum but with the new and related objective of challenging 'EU-creep' and blowing the lies away.

There is no blog, as far as I know, which monitors new emanations from Brussels which will, if implemented, impinge on our freedoms or oblige the UK government to do something which the British people will dislike and would vote down given half a chance.

There is no blog, as far as I know, which, every time a new UK regulation or law is introduced, publicises the fact (whenever it is a fact) that its root lies in the EU. Post Offices are just one recent example.

The British electorate still believes that its laws are its own. You (we) could disabuse them of this illusion.

Lisbon or no Lisbon, the EU will implode sooner or later. The sooner, the less bloody (sic) it will be.

Anything that can be done by Eurosceptics, to trumpet the truth that Brussels wishes to suppress, and thereby help to bring forward the end, should be done. The blogosphere is the place to do it, especially (if I may say so) under your well-respected banner.

It's a lot to ask. And you have already done such a lot. For which, many, many thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:58 pm 
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There are things that one doesn't expect to read, Richard, and your posting is one such.
We do not know each other personally but I did not have you put down as a quitter...au contraire....but it would be unfair to suggest that I may have misjudged your character...I hope it is simply one of those 'dark hours' which plague even the best of us from time to time.

You must be aware that the real destruction of our country has little or nothing to do with the EU...we had started to commit national suicide long before, even, the E.E.C. We have been & still are the architects of our own miserable demise as a 'nation' as I have repeatedly pointed out in my own occasional comments.

I see no way in which one can blame the EU for what we now are. The rejection of Churchill & the advent of the Attlee socialist gumment was the cradle in which our present predicament was born...cradle to grave nanny-statism & unaffordable free lunches. Barring a miracle change of attitude among the teat-suckers of The Septic Isle and/or the emergence of some real British leader, we shall blindly fall into the grave we have so diligently helped to dig.

It may well be, Richard, that your present despondence has other causes, but that is none of my business.

Be of good heart...Sei mutig!

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:02 pm 
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Hey, I really didn't say I was going to quit. We need to rethink and change our tactics ... EU Ref has run its course, and we'll have to consider hard how we take the next steps. The "classic" euroscepticism has not worked and has limited and diminishing appeal. We need to stop reinforcing failure.

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:07 pm 

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You are even more indispensable here in the US, where facts and opinions about the EU, should they get published at all, are filtered through yet another layer of PC.
Please keep up the good work.


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:08 pm 
RAENORTH wrote:
Hey, I really didn't say I was going to quit.

Well, that's determinism for you.


Genetic determinism.


I know. You can't help it. :lol:


Thank God for Darwin. :)


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:10 pm 
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Dr North,

Have you no faith any longer to believe in the miracle of resurrection?

A certain carpenter from Galilee managed this some time ago. It is still not beyond the realms of possibility that the Almighty has a plan for the UK which is somewhat divorced from the fate of the EU.

This blog is a beacon of light in a sea of darkness. Please do not extinguish it.


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:26 pm 

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Richard,
Whilst I agree that, as eurosceptics, we often are so disorganised and egocentric (characteristics not exclusive to ourselves) that we have often been our own worst enemies, by all means change the direction of this blog, but please do not abandon it.
Whilst I may only seldom contribute directly to the blog, I do rely upon it very strongly as a source of information, sometimes technical, but more frequently about items not covered by the MSM, so that I can continue to my last breath, to argue against EU domination of British politics, from a position of knowledge backed by your research.
Ultimately, it is likely that the EU will implode, break up, self destruct, or even end in the very bloodshed which it claims that it was created to prevent.
Issues relating to Defence of the Realm are, of course, possibly more immediate, but still dependent upon our overall relationship with the EU.


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