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 Post subject: An all-time low
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:55 pm 
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It don't mean nuffink, but it is great fun nevertheless to learn that public confidence in The Boy has hit an all-time low, according to a YouGov poll. Only 30 percent of respondents said he would "make the best PM" — the lowest figure since he entered No 10. His rating has dived eight points in a fortnight.

Predictably, Miliband has failed to take advantage, scoring only 19 percent, making one wonder that there can be that many people who would support this creature. But then Clegg only gets five percent, a figure which has the merit of being closer to zero.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:40 am 

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Well, with him running a government such as this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthn ... print.html

can there be any doubt as to why he is held in such high esteem?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:12 am 

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So, where is the other 46%?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:33 am 

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74% of those poor deluded sods would still vote Red Tory 32% or, Marxist/Trots 42% - incredible, what an amazing statistic?

Though, it could be argued it [this opinion survey poll] is no real pointer, I'm wondering - if UKIP/Independents do field a good number of candidates in the forthcoming local elections - then they may well do quite well but then what would that really tell them [liblabcon claque] -

"we are very unhappy!"

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:01 am 
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Look, when you have a supposedly Tory government employing Common Purpose, you know you're in trouble.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mi ... vid-114525

What on Earth is a Tory government doing employing a cultural Marxist organisation.

The answer is, Cam the sham is no Tory.

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What on Earth is a Tory government doing employing a cultural Marxist organisation.

The answer is, Cam the sham is no Tory.


Cultural Marxist's employ Frankfurt School ideology - Lucas, Milipede, Balls, Bilderberger Georgie, Dave - all in the same 'Kolkhoz' of mutual shared interests and ambitions = perfect little EU minions.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:54 am 

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Below is an extract on opinion polls from Peter Hitchens's The Cameron Delusion. The same point is made in The Great Deception when the 1975 referendum is covered: the odious Bob Worcester and Mori pumped out opinion polls showing a majority in favour of staying in the EEC, regardless of the truth. Doing so made the more ovine voter more inclined to vote to stay in; the deception became self-fulfilling. Having read both books, I now distrust opinion polls, particularly those issued by a firm whose president is married to Cathy Ashton. What is The Sun's agenda? To bash Dave for setting up the Leveson Inquiry?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:23 am 
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Well, with him running a government such as this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthn ... print.html

can there be any doubt as to why he is held in such high esteem?


GP Surgeries are private businesses. Little wonder the nation is in a mess when people elide private actions with government and hold government responsible for the actions of its citizens. There lies the fundamentals of the nanny state, where personal responsibility is so subsumed.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:27 am 

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If UKIP has an 8% poll share, isn't it in exactly the position that Referism aspires to be, ie able to offer those votes to the big two parties in order to get a referendum and swing seats? One might reasonably wonder if all parties exist for the benefit of their paid officers rather than their members' interests.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:45 am 
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Brian wrote:
If UKIP has an 8% poll share, isn't it in exactly the position that Referism aspires to be, ie able to offer those votes to the big two parties in order to get a referendum and swing seats? One might reasonably wonder if all parties exist for the benefit of their paid officers rather than their members' interests.


It is that view that drives me to the conclusion that change is best achieved from without, via a political movement, rather than from within, via a political party. In one sense, the former seeks change, the latter personal power.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:56 am 

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Is it mathematically possible to have a 'minus' approval rating?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:00 am 

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The astonishing thing is how little these 3 "monkeys" understand why they are so disliked. And also how at least 2 of them - Clegg & Millipede - are still their party leaders, while having not the slightest idea of how to ever become popular. And Cameron too if he can't learn fast enough, & then do something effective about it (but as he won't, that counts him out too!). These 3 idiotic monkeys insist on following policies that appeal to the tiny bubble of like-minded people around them, instead of finding out what ordinary British people really want, & then delivering it!

Unfortunately, though, they are not alone. This is a huge opportunity for UKIP. But where are they? Regularly rubbing the EU's nose in it in the euro-Parliament. That would be OK - if it wasn't an irrelevant sideshow as far as effective UK politics is concerned. UKIP has being going long enough to have a whole range of popular UK-related policies up its sleeve, & to have established an adequate net-work of sensible & presentable people to speak on such matters whenever they are topical. If these UKIPs representatives were talking sense, they would be listened to by some at least of the media. But instead UKIP remains a safety valve of the Tories - nothing really more. A party prepared to rejoin the Tories if, hope against hope, the Tories were to at last to see sense. But the Tories won't with such blinkered & politically-correct idiots in charge as Cameron, Osborne, Maude, Letwin, Willetts, May, Clarke etc. And as Cameron etc has no intention of moving politically towards UKIP to recover the 1 million-odd Tory defectors who now vote for it, then UKIP should see sense & speak up against this government, showing clearly how it differs from the Tories & that its policies are in tune with current UK public opinion - as opposed to the Tories Cameronian dreamland!

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 Post subject: Re: An all-time low
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:12 am 

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As suggested by Richard this sort of poll does not mean much. However, I'd say it's the coalitions rate of descent that's significant. We have the 'mid term blues' phrase to come from the spin department of both the LD's and Cons but that too is meaningless.

For me it's the 46% who say they 'don't know' who are the ones to watch. For on the one hand they could well withdraw from the whole political process and not vote. Or they could be ready to embrace a new way of doing politics and become enthusiastic. They are the prize for the bold thinkers.

Let's hope they are not too turned off politics that they fail to read the Old Swan manifesto when it arrives.


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 Post subject: Re: An all-time low
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:01 pm 

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RAENORTH wrote:
mmatis wrote:
Well, with him running a government such as this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthn ... print.html

can there be any doubt as to why he is held in such high esteem?


GP Surgeries are private businesses. Little wonder the nation is in a mess when people elide private actions with government and hold government responsible for the actions of its citizens. There lies the fundamentals of the nanny state, where personal responsibility is so subsumed.

Mea cowpie from the West side. I was under the impression that ALL of your medical facilities were socialized. Or at least that's what OUR media tell us...


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 Post subject: Re: An all-time low
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:25 pm 

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mmatis wrote:
Mea cowpie from the West side. I was under the impression that ALL of your medical facilities were socialized. Or at least that's what OUR media tell us...

Sort of right. The surgeries are private businesses on a subcontract basis to the State.

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