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 Post subject: The elephant in the letter box
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:39 pm 
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There is copious media coverage on the announced rise in postal charges, amid claims that: "We have some of the lowest stamp prices in Europe and amongst the highest service standards".

That claim on prices somehow doubt, if this website (and this one) is right, putting the German cost at 55 eurocents, with France at the same level – currently about 46p. This seems to be the average price for Europe, ranging from 19 eurocents in Malta to €1.12 in Norway.

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 Post subject: Re: The elephant in the letter box
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:50 pm 

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If the universal service goes - then 350 years + of history is gone - all thankx to the EU and our cursed and embarrassing, fawning attempts to please and to thus abide by every EU diktat no matter how lunatic and how ruinous to THIS country.

Why?


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 Post subject: Re: The elephant in the letter box
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:16 am 

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I've been ticked off ever since I discovered (nearly 10 years ago) that mail between the UK and the US must travel via somewhere in germany. I'd write things like eussr go home on my letters ... but I'd like them reach their destinations; I wish the recipients no 'consequences' either.

Still I have a hard time believing that the UK has any say in doings of the Royal Mail - it's all just another front and another lie. The truth lies only in the cost: 10/- for a 2nd class stamp.

And somebody on another strand said British citizens are well off ... ??? If so, how so; and for how long.


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 Post subject: Re: The elephant in the letter box
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:15 am 

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As always, any Media entity exists primarily to advance the views of its "owners". You, Dr. North, spend a not insignificant amount of money and time running this blog. If you felt it would not advance your views, would you continue to do so? And why would anyone expect the "Mainstream" media to do otherwise? They will offer the bread and circuses to draw their audience, and then indoctrinate them every time they get a chance. You on your side of the Pond are forced to pay for the BBC proselytizing, just as we on our side of the Pond are forced to pay for the same from PBS and NPR. And no politician from ANY major party has the courage to damn them for what they have done. After all, our Masters are running the show, and they intend to continue to do so no matter what...


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 Post subject: Re: The elephant in the letter box
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:29 am 

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Postal services have become messy all over Europe.
In many countries "the postman" who had a job able to support a family has been replaced by local part timers, often family mothers who do the job at considerably lower wages.

Parcel service companies like DHL have introduced the "Official Partner of DHL" concept.
The workers for these companies have been registered as private entrepreneurs.
They lease the delivery truck and work 14 hours a day. Only 8 hours are paid and as a consequence they make less than 5 Euro' per hour delivering the increasing volume of internet orders.
For every parcel they are unable to deliver they are fined.
Speed and parking fines of course have to be paid by the "entrepreneur" and with the current regime of money hungry cities and communities doing the job without risking a fine has become impossible.
If damage occurs to the van this too remains the problem of the "entrepreneur" and if he fails to maintain it up to DHL's standards he or she is fired.

So here we have a company DHL, making billions of profits exploiting the people who really do the tough job of delivering people's internet shopping, even if they live on the 12th stock of a high rise treated like slaves. Nothing more, nothing less.

The dealings of DHL and it's partners were exposed by a journalist who went underground and did the job for a DHL Partner for a period of two weeks in Germany.

And so we have to conclude that even the most rudimentary services in Europe are executed on a level found in any Banana Republic with absolutly no respect or consideration for the people who make the shareholders rich.

At my gliding club 10 year ago it was normal to have club members who worked as a mail man for the postal services.
Today no person delivering mail or parcels for that matter is in a position that provides the financial basis to afford a membership of a gliding club. And this despite the fact that business is booming.

No respect for DHL workers.
http://www.itfglobal.org/dhlblog/?p=201

DHL in the mean time just finished a take over bid by a big competitor.
What will happen with the "entrepreneurs" and their leased vans, nobody knows but i'm quite sure a number of them will be declared bankrupt.

I am a warm supporter of free markets where free people offer their services at free will but in the case of DHL this is not the case. People have been deliberately trapped into a position where the promise of earning around 20 Euro per hour was not met.
Instead they had a lease contract and the costs of their truck to pay for and overtime was not rewarded.

I think something is fundamentally wrong when people work a full day and don't earn enough money to support a basic household.


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 Post subject: Re: The elephant in the letter box
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:23 am 

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It's the Carbon you know. Even you Doubting Thomas deniers must see now that man's carbon emissions from recklessly driving round in SUVs and forgetting to turn off your cell phone charger have sent postal charges over a 'tipping point', just as that nice Professor Mann and the infallible millions of scientists in the IPCC predicted.

Don't forget Earth Hour this Saturday - maybe we can all sit in the dark together and coax the price of a stamp down a penny or two..

Oh! Hang on! It wasn't postage charges, just Global temperatures, wasn't it!?! Damn!

Sorry, it must be my age.

For more on Earth Hour, see the excellent Donna Laframboise's piece.


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 Post subject: Re: The elephant in the letter box
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:54 am 
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That was an interesting post, Rhaan. You can see how people can be easily led to vote for socialist parties when that kind of exploitation goes on. I'm all for free enterprise but not if the 'business model' relies on screwing the little people over in that way.

I don't know the answers to this problem but this sort of rapacious activity surely isn't sustainable long-term in any kind of civilised society.

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 Post subject: Re: The elephant in the letter box
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:40 am 

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I am a warm supporter of free markets where free people offer their services at free will but in the case of DHL this is not the case. People have been deliberately trapped into a position where the promise of earning around 20 Euro per hour was not met.
Instead they had a lease contract and the costs of their truck to pay for and overtime was not rewarded.

I think something is fundamentally wrong when people work a full day and don't earn enough money to support a basic household.


It's an agenda 21 thing.

Pay peanuts = more margin = how corporate global companies work= stifle and kill off competition, with the help of their paid for political clout [in the UK's case Westminster - see new planning law stitch-up]. This is the way it is going [particularly in the UK - and thus - no jobs for the white indigenous workforce] which means - more money for the top dogs, less for the bottom curs and if they [UK citizens] don't like it, then well pay em to stay on the dole [as in Spain/Greece/Ireland etc] and we'll import workers from the subcontinent/Turkey/Africa.......the brave new world of the Corporate Giants and the demographers and equality tsars of the EU/UN love it.


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