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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:57 pm 
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Chapter Six has the intrepid Dellers at the Heartland Institute's Fourth Annual Conference on climate change in Chicago, enjoying the lavish hospitality from Big Oil, or so we are led to believe.

He is amongst principled people, he says, several of whom have become his personal heroes, and the last thing he wants to do is make them feel unwanted. Nevertheless, he goes on to attempt just that. It really doesn't matter how many brilliant papers Roy Spencer produces on cloud cover feedback, he writes ...

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 Post subject: Re: Watermelons
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Donate a copy to your local school library perhaps?


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 Post subject: Re: Watermelons
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If I'd known Dellers was watching me when I was peeing on the compost heap.....

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 Post subject: Re: Watermelons
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I'm looking forward to reading this. I'm just about finished with Patrick Moore's "Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout" which really shows how far the environmental movement has strayed away from its roots. That is, if you believe - and Moore seems genuine - that the movement was actually about the environment at its outset


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 Post subject: Re: Watermelons
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And the sad truth is that, if the human race is to advance at more than a snail's pace, the useful idiots really should be culled!


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 Post subject: Re: Watermelons
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:50 pm 
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There's a limit to the amount of sorting and washing of rubbish I can do, although I am comforted by the thought that Chinese artisans will have a hygenic experience as they tip it into landfill.

Speaking as a human being and, therefore, as a product of the natural world myself, I expect Gaia automatically to accommodate my behaviour.

If zealots conjecture that the planet may be suffering then, rather than attempting to deconstruct us back to a primitive agrarian existence, they should lend their efforts to the space programme so that Mankind may be enabled to leave it.

Meanwhile, warmist use of taqiyya is a heartening reminder that the moslem message is not going unheeded.

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 Post subject: Re: Watermelons
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Not sure I agree that the science that debunks AGW is irrelevant just because it's really all about politics.

I agree that really it is all about politics. And I agree that politics and Dellors-style rhetoric are very important for fighting back. But I don't think that that sort of stuff would have got very far without the climate sceptic scientists undermining the supposed scientific case for AGW.


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If I'd known Dellers was watching me when I was peeing on the compost heap.....



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Crumble wrote:
Not sure I agree that the science that debunks AGW is irrelevant just because it's really all about politics.

I agree that really it is all about politics. And I agree that politics and Dellors-style rhetoric are very important for fighting back. But I don't think that that sort of stuff would have got very far without the climate sceptic scientists undermining the supposed scientific case for AGW.



Necessary, but not sufficient. This was discussed on the other thread ...

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 Post subject: Re: Watermelons
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Sounds like he has stuck one of these PDT_Armataz_01_42 on the warmist's lawn.


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 Post subject: Re: Watermelons
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Ben Pile has quite a good piece in Spiked on the same theme
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/ ... icle/12163


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 Post subject: Re: Watermelons
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:48 pm 
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RAENORTH wrote:
It really doesn't matter how many brilliant papers Roy Spencer produces on cloud cover feedback,
As an aside, it is worth reading Dr Spencer's piece on Daubert and the Admissibility of Climate Models as Evidence in a Court of Law. As he says
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CO2 litigation can be expected in the coming years in various states. There are 5 relevant standards in the Daubert test of admissibility, but which the judge does not necessarily have to follow rigorously
I look forward to the first case under Daubert's test of admissibility, but wish his name wasn't so similar to Dilbert. Although, the whole AGW saga is a bit Dilbertish after all.


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 Post subject: Re: Watermelons
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gregb wrote:
RAENORTH wrote:
It really doesn't matter how many brilliant papers Roy Spencer produces on cloud cover feedback,
As an aside, it is worth reading Dr Spencer's piece on Daubert and the Admissibility of Climate Models as Evidence in a Court of Law. As he says
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CO2 litigation can be expected in the coming years in various states. There are 5 relevant standards in the Daubert test of admissibility, but which the judge does not necessarily have to follow rigorously
I look forward to the first case under Daubert's test of admissibility, but wish his name wasn't so similar to Dilbert. Although, the whole AGW saga is a bit Dilbertish after all.


The first thing that struck me when I started reading was "Dilbert". It could be that Dilbert's test might prevail ...

http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-11-07/

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RAENORTH wrote:
It could be that Dilbert's test might prevail ...

http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-11-07/
Brilliant. I laughed until I realised that it was only too frighteningly true.


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Announcing the Matt Ridley Prize for Environmental Heresy
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/ ... resy.thtml


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