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 Post subject: We know he's not that stupid
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:52 pm 
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We don't have a great deal of time for Myrtle, but we know that he is not this stupid. The only thing we can surmise is that he has been kidnapped, with the villain taking over his blog and impersonating him.

The Hannan I knew had brains enough to know that were was no veto, and that the answer to the current mess is not an in/out referendum.

One assumes that the kidnapper(s) must be linked in some way to People's Pledge, as this is the outfit that is being promoted, one that is wasting good money on something we are unlikely to get and which, if we did, we would probably not win.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:38 pm 

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For Hannan read Mrs Hannan. That's where the 'power' lies, as it does for all dedicated Tory Boys.


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Was it Tom Bradby of ITN who had the 'honour' of the first question, only to waste it with more nonsense about the bonus?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:13 am 

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Do you still posit that they are merely this stupid, instead of conniving as their Brothers are on the West side of the Pond?


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 Post subject: Re: We know he's not that stupid
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Slime-mold isn't smart, but it's very good at doing what it does.

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 Post subject: Re: We know he's not that stupid
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:59 am 

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All over the EU Press today:
UK and Czech Republic reject Fiscal Union

Here's the link from Handelsblatt
http://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/int ... 29934.html


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 Post subject: Re: We know he's not that stupid
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:01 am 

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The report that will blow up the Eurozone
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-repo ... one-2012-1


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 Post subject: Re: We know he's not that stupid
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:42 am 

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@Rhaan and from link provided [cheers all good stuff].

Hmm, interesting stuff Rhaan.

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"Portugal's debt is unsustainable. That is the only possible conclusion," said David Bencek, the co-author, warning that no country can achieve a primary budget surplus above 5pc for long. "We won't know what the trigger will be but once there is a decision on Greece people are going to start looking closely and realise that Portugal is the same position as Greece was a year ago."


Baltic dry index...


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He said: "This collapse looks similar to the falls we saw in the Baltic Dry ahead of the recessions of the late 1970s and early 1990s – but this drop is actually steeper."


A clincher here I think bearing in mind the above statements:
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Germany and the Netherlands are likely to quit the eurozone rather than swallow an indefinite number of 'unrequited transfers' to the union’s crisis-stricken nations, according to Charles Dumas, chief economist at Lombard Street Research.


From here

Everything looks rosy in EU-Berlaymont-fantasy-empire?


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 Post subject: Re: We know he's not that stupid
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:52 am 
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Hannan's first law - No party is Eurosceptic while in government

Makes you wonder why. Is it purely peer pressure from the European political elite? Do they have that strong a bond on an average basis? Or are there very powerful and influential people in this country who are either ideoligically driven to the EU or in an international conspiracy towards supranationalism and world government? Why Doc?


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 Post subject: Re: We know he's not that stupid
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Stuart wrote:
Hannan's first law - No party is Eurosceptic while in government

Makes you wonder why. Is it purely peer pressure from the European political elite? Do they have that strong a bond on an average basis? Or are there very powerful and influential people in this country who are either ideoligically driven to the EU or in an international conspiracy towards supranationalism and world government? Why Doc?


My first law is "Don't f**k with North".

As to Hannan's "law", the answer is fairly straightforward ... in opposition, the Tories want to get elected. The electorate is broadly anti-EU, so they pretend to be likewise. Once in, they bump up against the realities of power, and revert to type. The fact is that the EU is our government ... they feel they have to live with that.

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 Post subject: Re: We know he's not that stupid
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Hannan's first law - No party is Eurosceptic while in government

Makes you wonder why.


Cash! The EU buys off politicians and bureaucrats.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:09 am 

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I think its more like the nobility of the Middle Ages . They (the new nomemclatura ) relate more to foreign nomemclatura than they do to plebs in their own countries .


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:16 am 
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SandyRham wrote:
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Hannan's first law - No party is Eurosceptic while in government

Makes you wonder why.


Cash! The EU buys off politicians and bureaucrats.


It is not that simple ... the EU runs the government. Without the "colleagues", this bunch of children would not know where to start. We (i.e., they) have lost the ability to govern.

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Peter Hitchens wrote
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I originally mistakenly posted the title as 'The Great Delusion', which is, as a contributor pointed out, mistaken. Apologies to those looking for the book, and to the authors)


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 Post subject: We know he's not that stupid
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:33 pm 

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It's not just in Britain & other EU countries that the feeling is spreading that democracy has become an illusion, & that "the authorities" have turned the whole democratic process into a meaningless sham. See a satirical US take on the situation:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/diebold-l ... arly-again

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