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 Post subject: Madness begins at home
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:10 pm 
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The man masquerading as our prime minister is in Davos, telling the "colleagues" that "Europe" must "stop throttling growth with excessive bureaucracy".

It this the same man who supports the Single Market, and its burgeoning regulations which support the CE marking? Is this the same man who, when questioned about the Costa Concordia, responded with a pledge to produce more regulations, if needed.

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 Post subject: Re: Madness begins at home
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:30 pm 
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Indeed, is this the same man who is rolling out a massive amount of climate change legislation


Talking of climate change/global warming, here's an interesting article about how they're trying to censor the internet because they feel they're losing the war. You need to read the article all the way to the end. Richard will like the bit about political blogs (that aren't 'on message') having to have pop ups with counter arguments.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/article ... rnings.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Madness begins at home
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:50 pm 
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You keep looking for consistency. But Cameron's speeches are PR efforts, designed to serve the perceived need of the moment. They aim to create an impression, not to change anything. He truly is the heir to Blair.

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 Post subject: Re: Madness begins at home
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:15 pm 

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Madness may begin at home but it burgeons in Brussels. Have you seen this comment from the Commission?

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Cameron said the Commission's own analysis showed that the tax could cost half a million jobs and reduce the EU's economic output by €200bn. Not so, says Emer Traynor, spokeswoman for taxation affairs [This was the little woman that threatened Sweden and Britain a couple of days ago that whether we wanted or not we would have to pay the transaction tax. What a lovely peace project this is!], who said they were "being read completely out of context":

Such figures are certainly not ones that the Commission would support. When assessing the impact of the FTT in a balanced way, we must also take into account the effect that the new revenues will also have on growth and jobs.
So, if the revenues are intelligently recycled into the economy, then there would be no negative impact on growth and jobs at all, even in the long term.


Yes, we know that we can always trust the EU to make intelligent decisions. NOT!


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 Post subject: Re: Madness begins at home
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:16 pm 

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I bet this speech has come from some electoral research (marketing) group at CCHQ, watching the polls and following the commentary and realising that Dave did pretty well with his "veto". Talking about getting tough with "Europe", QUANGOs, red tape and the ECHR plays well. It isn't directed at anyone in Davos, it's intended to create an impression at home. It certainly won't be connected with any course of action.

Rather like the washing powder ads on TV years ago. One of them hinted without saying it, that if you didn't buy their product your kids would be going to school in dingy grey shirts which were supposed to be white and be dreadfully looked down on by all the kids whose mothers had used this particular washing powder. Silly when you analyse it, but you're not supposed to analyse it.


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 Post subject: Re: Madness begins at home
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:58 pm 
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comet wrote:

Rather like the washing powder ads on TV years ago. One of them hinted without saying it, that if you didn't buy their product your kids would be going to school in dingy grey shirts which were supposed to be white and be dreadfully looked down on by all the kids whose mothers had used this particular washing powder. Silly when you analyse it, but you're not supposed to analyse it.


Funny, at my school, we had dingy grey shirts. They were made that way.

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 Post subject: Re: Madness begins at home
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Nick Clegg - does all the thinking now.

After all, Dave is just a PR man, we all know how bloody thick they are.


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 Post subject: Re: Madness begins at home
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Indeed, is this the same man who is rolling out a massive amount of climate change legislation, and the same man who supports Basel III and the EU's programme of turning it into law?


The Devil makes work for idle hands.

If we were to withdraw from the EU my bet is that our politicians would have more pressing concerns,and have to get back to more basic legislation.The problem with having the EU AND Westminster is that this bread and butter stuff gets done in Brussels leaving our MPs with time free to meddle to an even further degree on pet agendas(populist ones mainly),piling ever increasing amounts of legislation on a nation creaking under the weight of it all.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:51 pm 
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It does make me laugh that we belong to all these supranational bodies and yet Cameron wants to "reform" them all.


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 Post subject: Re: Madness begins at home
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:44 pm 
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vincent wrote:
The Devil makes work for idle hands.

If we were to withdraw from the EU my bet is that our politicians would have more pressing concerns,and have to get back to more basic legislation.The problem with having the EU AND Westminster is that this bread and butter stuff gets done in Brussels leaving our MPs with time free to meddle to an even further degree on pet agendas(populist ones mainly),piling ever increasing amounts of legislation on a nation creaking under the weight of it all.


Yes, absolutely ... I'm sure you are right. The EU does the donkey work, and gives the MPs more time to play.

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 Post subject: Re: Madness begins at home
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vincent wrote:
The Devil makes work for idle hands.

If we were to withdraw from the EU my bet is that our politicians would have more pressing concerns,and have to get back to more basic legislation.The problem with having the EU AND Westminster is that this bread and butter stuff gets done in Brussels leaving our MPs with time free to meddle to an even further degree on pet agendas(populist ones mainly),piling ever increasing amounts of legislation on a nation creaking under the weight of it all.


Yes, absolutely ... I'm sure you are right. The EU does the donkey work, and gives the MPs more time to play.



I am sure I have learnt that from you!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Madness begins at home
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:19 pm 

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No doubt the Green Tosser is staying with his best mate in the 20 room family Chalet in Davos, rather than slumming it in a 6 star hotel........The Chalet is owned by Cleggeron's dad...and at 20 rooms we are talking many many millions of SFr....


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 Post subject: Madness begins at home
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:09 pm 

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Awareness of what a disaster the EU is is spreading everywhere, it seems. Here is a cautionary tale I read on the internet:

'Hans, a middle-aged German tourist on his first visit to Orlando, Florida, finds the red light district and enters a large "house of ill-repute". The madam asks him to be seated and sends over a young lady to entertain him.

They sit and talk, frolic a little, giggle a bit, drink a bit, and she sits on his lap. He whispers in her ear and she gasps and runs away! Seeing this, the madam sends over a more experienced lady to entertain the gentleman.

They sit and talk, frolic a little, giggle a bit, drink a bit, and she sits on his lap. He whispers in her ear, and she too screams, "No!" and walks quickly away.

The madam is surprised that this ordinary looking man has asked for something so outrageous that her two girls will have nothing to do with him. She decides that only her most experienced lady, Lola, will do. Lola has never said no, and it's not likely anything would surprise her. So the madam sends her over to Han's. The sit and talk, frolic a little, giggle a bit, drink a bit, and she sits on his lap. He whispers in her ear and she screams, "NO WAY, BUDDY!" and smacks him as hard as she can and leaves.

Madam is by now absolutely intrigued, having seen nothing like this in all her years of operating a clip-joint. She hasn't done the bedroom work herself for a long time, but she's sure she has said yes to everything a man could possibly ask for. She just has to find out what this man wants that has made her girls so angry. Besides she sees a chance to teach her employees a
lesson.

So she goes over to Han's and says that she's the best in the house and is available. She sits and talks with him. They frolic, giggle, drink and then she sits in his lap.

Han's leans forwards and whispers in her ear, "Can I pay in Euros?"'


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