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 Post subject: The great and the good?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:13 pm 
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He is a Marxist and was a long-standing member of the now defunct Communist Party of Great Britain and the associated Communist Party Historians Group. As such, he has been (and still is) an apologist for one of the most vile regimes this earth has ever spawned, openly justifying a system responsible for the death of 15-20 million people, and denying the extent of its crimes against humanity.

Yet Eric Hobsbawm is president of Birkbeck, University of London and recently president of the Telegraph Hay Festival. He was appointed a Companion of Honour in 1998, a British honour unique in that it is the personal gift of the monarch for outstanding achievement in the arts, literature, music, science, politics, industry or religion. And even to this day, he is fêted by the BBC as a great historian.

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The establishment has lost it. Period


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The tragedy for humanity is not that he is a Marxist, but that he lived so long.

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If anyone wants to understand why it is that the British establishment is entirely debauched they need know only that Robert Conquest has a CMG and Eric Hobsbawm has a CH (a superior honour).

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Who will join me in petitioning for a posthumous OBE or someting for Pol Pot. We should generously honour not only our own maniacs.
Yes, we have lost it...but many years back.

The mystery is: How do unspeakables like Hobsbawm get away with it? Sorry, silly question.

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 Post subject: Re: The great and the good?
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It is strange, to me at least, how obviously intelligent adults can view reality through such a distorted set of lenses and mirrors. It must be something hard-wired into their brains and I suppose it must have had survival value at some time in the past (under both Hitler's and Stalin's rule, I imagine). This is one aspect of humanity where eugenics (if it is ever understood sufficiently) might massively improve the humen race!


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 Post subject: Re: The great and the good?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:48 am 

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permanentexpat wrote:
How do unspeakables like Hobsbawm get away with it?


I expect he is a jolly nice chap, the fact that given the opportunity he'd turn his back as you get shipped off to the gulag is neither here nor there, comrade.


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 Post subject: Re: The great and the good?
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For me, he is belongs with the Cambridge Five, a plant, an insider who did his sabotage, peddling his insidious lies and quasi-intellectual filth and sapping our strength from the inside [how much sway did he have in the senior ranks of our civil service and with the panjandrums in Whitehall?].

Scum of the earth, Hobspawn.

No surprise either, that the BBC shows its true colours adoring in its heartfelt but sickening [for most patriotic Britons] sycophantic hero worship.

Plus, I've always said, there is no difference between Nu scum, old scum, Socialism, whatever you call it, it is subversive and anti British, international communism/the UN/the EU - what's the difference?

Nowadays, in Britain we call it Statism.


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 Post subject: Re: The great and the good?
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Come the eventual time he is the perfect candidate for his coffin being exhumed and its contents being fed into an industrial rending machine and his minced up remains fed to the pigs.
He will then also have no known grave like most of the victims of Communism.

Sorry if that offends....but I read about this turd ages ago and it made me seethe.

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 Post subject: Re: The great and the good?
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Belongs to a class ...

My sister makes her money from the NHS. Of course, she opposes Tory "cuts" which aren't actual cuts. She opposes them because the poor saps will suffer without government programs. More importantly, she will suffer without government programs.


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 Post subject: Re: The great and the good?
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Nowadays, in Britain we call it Statism.
Thank you and noted, Ravenscar.

As IanE suggests, choice of a 'distorting' lens indicates something amiss in the viewer's wiring. Actually, I think Chaucer also presented the phenomenon in that part of "House of Fame" where he dreams himself into the Virgilian nightmare of a Temple of Glass, which is dedicated to Venus. There, the poet recognises, and escapes, the tragic consequences of paying into a dense knot of untruths (HOF 121-473) --- But some of us never learn.

Instead, they just keep on using words to change the label. So, having somehow realised that Communism has an undeniably justified bad rep, Marxists keep on denying that they're commies. Now that we've rumbled that game, they're calling it a neu name (Statism, and its reflections). It's as if they think their good intentions in sticking a plaster over carcinoma will hide the thing ---- and the progress of the disease, even to ensuing pain and death.

Funny how so many of them manage to sound intelligent in the process... and, like Dido, they fall prey to their own claptrap. They idolise ... well, lies and material self-interest.

[Coincidental, too, that one knot of modern lies should be enshrined somewhere in Aeneas's Rome...............................]


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 Post subject: Re: The great and the good?
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APL wrote:
permanentexpat wrote:
How do unspeakables like Hobsbawm get away with it?


I expect he is a jolly nice chap, the fact that given the opportunity he'd turn his back as you get shipped off to the gulag is neither here nor there, comrade.


And one wonders how he'd feel if it were him on the all-expenses-paid holiday trip of a lifetime to said gulag!?


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 Post subject: Re: The great and the good?
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Beelzebub has a special place set aside for him.

It was Tony BLiar that recommended him for his CH....something we should all remember about BLiar and the Labour party. Today Ed Millipede is one election away from becoming PM and was brought up in a Marxist hot house.


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 Post subject: Re: The great and the good?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:41 am 
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FU (Fed Up) wrote:
Beelzebub has a special place set aside for him...


Not forgetting Ralph Miliband either ... a great friend of Hobsbawm.

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 Post subject: Re: The great and the good?
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Hobsbawm's face is as vile and as distorted as the politics he espouses.

It says much about Elizabeth Windsor that she 'honoured' such verminous filth with a CH, which is why she no longer can call on my loyalty.

I don't think digging him up and feeding to the pigs is a good idea, I'm thinking of the pigs here you understand, being more noble than Hobsbawm.

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