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 Post subject: Why we must leave - 4
PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:05 pm 
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The picture above is no more in the UK. More than 80 million battery hen spaces have been upgraded as a result of EU law. Almost all British egg producers will be compliant with the law that comes into force on 1 January. Others are not.

Spain, France, Poland, amongst others – eight in total, including Belgium - are not ready, and will continue producing eggs from battery cages, despite having had 13 years to prepare for the new law, one which introduces standards the British would have adopted, with or without the EU.

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It was amazing how quick the colleagues were when the banned our 'non compliant' beef.


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Time for an Egg Party!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:51 am 
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Robertm wrote:
It was amazing how quick the colleagues were when the banned our 'non compliant' beef.



One rule for them, one rule for us. You should know that!

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RAENORTH wrote:
Robertm wrote:
It was amazing how quick the colleagues were when the banned our 'non compliant' beef.



One rule for them, one rule for us. You should know that!



yes ask the Italians about Milk Quotas!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:21 pm 
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Doyle wrote:
RAENORTH wrote:
Robertm wrote:
It was amazing how quick the colleagues were when the banned our 'non compliant' beef.



One rule for them, one rule for us. You should know that!



yes ask the Italians about Milk Quotas!


Nothing to stop you asking ... just don't expect an answer.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:55 pm 
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The same thing that happened with Pigs circa 2000. We/NuLabour put in strict welfare standards, but did not enforce on the rest of the EU. So now our producers can't compete with Dutch and Danish producers and are losing out. Because despite what people may say when asked, in real life they revert to type and buy on price.

The problem is, even people are prepared to pay the extra, it isn't the customer who buys the ingredients/meat/eggs etc. The pub lunch/restaurant/takeaway/fast food shop/sandwich shop/supermarket ready made meals etc. will virtually always buy on price.

But even for people who buy their ingredients and cook their own food and are willing to pay for British there is a hurdle. Something like 55% of the bacon sold in Britain is labelled British. British pig producers only have about a 30% market share. Because as long as the bacon (or any food stuff) supplier is an EU member and sends the meat over for processing (that can be packaging), they can stick a Union Jack on it.

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It's worth reminding ourselves of the EU's 'Integrated Farming Framework', this lofty title and the bureaucratic language used simply translates into intensive factory farming. The EU would have you think this is dynamic and 'modern', thus essential for you. In fact it's a gift to corporatism.

In practical terms it's hard to see for all the hype and bluster of the EU, and its regulations, how it can other than by protectionism defy the World Trade Organisation which also likes the idea of factory farming.

Hence the only way around this is, as suggested, for the UK to leave the EU but also to defy the WTO on humane farming grounds. This would not only help UK farmers and deliver animal welfare but also help protect the health of UK citizens. Subsidising animal welfare rather than windfarms would be a vote winner. For we should also remind ourselves that farmers work longer hours than windfarms!


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