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 Post subject: Climategate II
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:39 pm 
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What has been billed as Climategate II has arrived on a Russian server via Tallbloke and others. As you might imagine, there are one or two people sniffing around to see what the files contain.

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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:28 pm 
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November 22, 2011 at 6:43 am

Even more!

It has also come to light that Mr Harrabin, science and environmental correspondent for the BBC received £15000 from the UEA for services rendered. Harrabin established the BBC as media of choice for climate alarmism. I am having problems at the moment getting a blog about this accepted on Paul Hudson’s page.

So wheels within wheels and money flowing to maintain the lies.

Wonderful revelations just before Durban.

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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:22 pm 

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Like TBF I'm laughing. Follow the link to the BBC website and Richard Black, underneath the picture the caption reads -

'The writer appears to argue that combating climate change will create poverty'

Strueth! You could knock me down with a feather!


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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:34 pm 

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Oh please let this run and run. It is bound to go viral!!!

Here is a reminder of what we have had to put up with with these forgers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaTJJCPYhlk


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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:08 pm 
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2775> Jones:
I too don’t see why the schemes should be symmetrical. The temperature ones
certainly will not as we’re choosing the periods to show warming


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<2440> Jones: I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the
process


Perhaps the UEA need either to sack Jones or buy another tub of whitewash

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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:12 pm 

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In2minds wrote:
Like TBF I'm laughing. Follow the link to the BBC website and Richard Black, underneath the picture the caption reads -

'The writer appears to argue that combating climate change will create poverty'

Strueth! You could knock me down with a feather!

I don't think that the caption writer is quite right. However, I'm undecided whether the author of the text file with the emails is suggesting that there are more worthy things to spend the International Energy Agency's figure of $37trillion on or that the whole project is about alleviating poverty hidden behind a curtain of craply done science.


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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:34 pm 

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I am still holding my fire a little bit, because [if these are kosher] then: this is the end of 'son of Kyoto' in Durban!
And hopefully [definitely maybe] the end of UN/EU/British.gov climate activism and of the IPCC - hip hip effin HHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I wonder what those donk's in the Norfolk Constabulary are going to make of this?

"Ello, Ello, Ello what's all this then, more 'acking from Siberia dontcha know......... we'll have to do something about those greaseyballs fellows?"
"nah, that's Iberia your finkin' abaht chief inspector Gummidge....."

There's leaked and then, there is emails which are purposefully and voluntarily leaked - no crime committed..........don't get sidelined by Hacking lads and cost to the taxpayer of wasted man hours etc.

The game is over, AGW is dead, now were coming for the Buf-huhne.


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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:41 pm 

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Over 2.5 billion people live on less than $2 a day.”

“Every day nearly 16.000 children die from hunger and related causes.”

“One dollar can save a life” — the opposite must also be true.

“Poverty is a death sentence.”

“Nations must invest $37 trillion in energy technologies by 2030 to stabilize
greenhouse gas emissions at sustainable levels.”

Today’s decisions should be based on all the information we can get, not on
hiding the decline.


A fitting epitaph for AGW's tombstone.


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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:43 pm 

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This is quite amusing timing for me as I have just completed a piece of research on media churnalism:

I wrote bots to gather every single one of the environment agency's press releases (1962 to be exact) over the last two years and submit them to the 'Churnalism' engine to see how much of their output had been shamelessly cut and pasted by our mass media.

The BBC comes out as - by far and away - the worst culprit for uncritically cutting and pasting Environment Agency Press releases.

Read all about it here:

http://i-squared.blogspot.com/2011/11/a ... nment.html

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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:44 pm 

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I'll maybe have a read some time later but it's hard to get excited. It really wouldn't matter if Jones admitted it was all a scam from the outset, as you say "nothing a few "independent" scientific inquiries and a BBC documentary can't fix". Too many heads buried deep in the trough to stop now.

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Every right to be excited, there is no way "they" can fix the wide spread belief, that it is all a scam to rob us blind via "environmental" taxes.

These new e-mails will certainly add to the sceptic's armour.


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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:25 pm 
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date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:49:18 -0000 (GMT)
from: “Tim Osborn”
subject: RE: FW: FOI_08-50 ; EIR_08-01
to: “Jones Philip Prof”

Hi Phil!

re. your email to Dave Palmer [which he copied in his response to you and
cc'd to me, Keith & Michael McGarvie, and which has hence already been
multiply copied within the UEA system, and therefore will probably exist
for a number of months and possibly years, and could be released under FOI
if a request is made for it during that time!]… I assume that you didn’t
delete any emails that David Holland has requested (because that would be
illegal) but that instead his request merely prompted you to do a spring
clean of various other emails that hadn’t been requested, as part of your
regular routine of deleting old emails. If that is what you meant, then
it might be a good idea to clarify your previous email to Dave Palmer, to
avoid it being misunderstood.

The way things seem to be going, I think it best if we discuss all FOI,
EIR, Data Protection requests in person wherever possible, rather than via
email. It’s such a shame that the skeptics’ vexatious use of this
legislation may prevent us from using such an efficient modern technology
as email, but it seems that if we want to have confidential discussions
then we may need to avoid it.

I shall delete this email and those related to it as part of my regular
routine of deleting old emails!

Cheers

Tim


<2459> Osborn:

Quote:
Keith and I have just searched through our emails for anything containing
“David Holland”. Everything we found was cc’d to you and/or Dave Palmer, which
you’ll already have.


Obviously they had nothing to hide, just a little spring cleaning to do. And this was before Climategate 1

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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
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According to the upates at the top of the WUWT article, these emails have been confirmed as genuine:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/22/climategate-2-0/

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 Post subject: Re: Climategate II?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:18 pm 

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That nctu Richard Black says [is he for real this berk?]:

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"This appears to be a carefully-timed attempt to reignite controversy over the science behind climate change when that science has been vindicated by three separate independent inquiries and number of studies - including, most recently, the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature group."


Vindicated? VINDICATED?? Whatttttttttttttttt???!!!!! Read it here.
Plus, BEST results are only prelim's, there has been no formal release of collated results yet Black - you div.

God in heaven, how purblind are these BBC shills?

Black, has he seen Harrabin recently [Harrabin on another lecture tour or is he down a disused mine - he should be] or has [Roge'] he gone home to his home planet, because Richard you should have gone with him, alien being that you are.

Beeb, AGW wan88rs............even when the awful truth dawns, still they deny it, damned fanatics.


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