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 Post subject: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:37 pm 
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At each stage. Huhne and his co-authors write, the opponents of the euro have forecast disasters which have in fact never happened and which always looked most unlikely … the Euro-sceptics constantly underestimated the competence of the Europeans and their ability to organise things properly.

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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:47 pm 

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That is precisely the equivalent of saying to someone counting the hours on their death bed, "You've never died yet, so you aren't going to die now!"

One almost transcends contempt to a sort of horrawe at such stupidity.

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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:38 pm 
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Huhne, Hutton et al wrote:
There is no provision in the EU treaties, or in the institutional arrangements for EMU, for the EU as a whole or for any member state to assume responsibility for the liabilities of other member states. Indeed, they are explicitly precluded from doing so. [p. 28]

I'd like to typeset that in steel studs on a cricket bat and then set to bashing them around the head with it.

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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:22 pm 
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EdCase wrote:
Huhne, Hutton et al wrote:
There is no provision in the EU treaties, or in the institutional arrangements for EMU, for the EU as a whole or for any member state to assume responsibility for the liabilities of other member states. Indeed, they are explicitly precluded from doing so. [p. 28]

I'd like to typeset that in steel studs on a cricket bat and then set to bashing them around the head with it.


Water off a duck's back.

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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:44 pm 

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But we have long known that it is forbidden for Countries to bail each other out under EU rules, so what is new! As to Huhne, words fail, Mr. Booker got him to rights this morning. He is a fraudster, pure and simple.


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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:06 pm 

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I read that Will Hutton believes that:

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A framework is emerging, which will underwrite the euro and, crucially, allow the European Central Bank to buy euro-denominated assets in trillions if need be.


Who gives a flying one about treaties, German law courts or democracy?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... uro-reform


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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:25 pm 
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RAENORTH wrote:
Water off a duck's back.

I'm sure it would be, given the way euroslime such as Huhne and Hutton get the kid-glove treatment by the MSM, al beeb especially.

But imagine the damage a well briefed rogue interviewer loaded with quotes like that could do to them on some high-ratings television news programme. Perhaps Paxman, but you'd need to give him a bang on the head first and inject him with rabies proper since he's nothing like the rottweiler he's made out to be.

I have a vision where someone like Huhne is invited onto a live discussion programme and led to expect the usual easy al-beeb treatment but then being bushwhacked by the Roger the Dodgy Inquisitor and wound up to such a pitch that he storms off the set with his arse on fire as John Nott did.

It would start off all very nicely, but slowly slowly (big fish on a light line) built up into a mega wind-up with the interviewer feigning innocence at every stage - until the denoument, where he makes it blatantly apparent the whole thing has been a deliberate set-up, and that Huhne, now looking thoroughly ridiculous, blows his stack. It would be fun to needle the bastard to that pitch. And then kick him in the bollocks.

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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
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So who was right and who was wrong?

Layard et al 1 August 2002

Connolly and Whittaker 3 October 2002


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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:10 pm 

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Layarad and the other wise men wrote:

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What about Europe’s ‘unfunded pension liabilities? European governments currently
spend more on pensions than Britain and will have to spend even more as populations age
– unless they change their policies. [...........] And, in fact, the countries are likely to change
their policies, raising retirement ages and lowering benefits, long before any crisis point is reached.


But was that plausible even in 2002?

Connolly and Whittaker wrote:

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All governments face continual pressure to tax less and spend more. Membership of the EMU
‘club’ dilutes the financial discipline that would be faced by an independent government and
makes it more likely that some governments will succumb to this pressure.2


Fact: Italy, hard pressed by Merkel and Sarkozy promised last week to increase its nominal (NB!) pension age from 65 to 67 years by 2026 (!!)


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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:10 pm 

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Shocked ... shocked I tell ye that Huhne would have believed such crap. Then again solar panels can power England, democracy is all about voting for the whitest teeth, dead pensioners can't vote and Europe isn't the detonator for the fusion bomb known as the derivative market.

Will he have that same silly smirk on his stupid face as he drops on the end of a rope outside Whitehall? I say he will. So say we all.

next up .... Portugal .... Cyprus ....

Will Huhne taste like Chicken? I say he will. So say we all.

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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:59 pm 

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Edcase [now there's a bit of a lad] says:

RAENORTH wrote:
Water off a duck's back.

I'm sure it would be, given the way euroslime such as Huhne and Hutton get the kid-glove treatment by the MSM, al beeb especially.


That's why they were papping themselves with Murdoch's attempt to 'get into' Brit TV - a British version of Fox News - how about R North as 'roving' reporter? Or Hard talk with a harsh and very cynical bastard, ie, P. Hitchens/Littlejohn...........it time someone also highlighted this sort of whack-job and the weasel rationale on why do we allow it [they wouldn't in France]?? A little ingenuity [subtlety] wouldn't go amiss - by, for instance placing two articles side by side and using the juxtaposition to make a point without saying anything...............for example,this and this.

Al beeb and all the ncuts who work there indirectly [mainly] are responsible for the sh*thole this country has become, I watch their smiling happy painted faces ................. and emanating from their smug countenances, a self satisfied [I'm alright Jack are YOU?!] and vomit.
Is it too much to ask, for a little objectivity??
Even greenboy, I'm married into the landowner-green-wellie-brigade - Cameron is given an easy ride - Milipeed could roll up sh1tfaced to an interview wet himself on camera and the Beeb would praise him from the rooftops as; "the saviour who pissed himself is cometh!"

Lord above, please help us and deliver us from the BBC.


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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:45 pm 

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Ravenscar wrote:

Lord above, please help us and deliver us from the BBC.


Help the Lord with this task by not funding Beezlebub Broadcasting Con .


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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:55 pm 

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Cameron and Clegg should get down on their knees and thank God.
Think what the Sunday headlines would look like for them if God had not sent them Fox and Huhne ! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
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So according to St. Huhne we need to join the Euro in order to have prosperity. Er........., wasn't that the reason we went into the 'Common Market' in the first place?

Jam yesterday, jam tomorrow, but never jam today?


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 Post subject: Re: The gospel according to St Huhne
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:10 am 
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Eightpot wrote:
So according to St. Huhne we need to join the Euro in order to have prosperity. Er........., wasn't that the reason we went into the 'Common Market' in the first place?

Jam yesterday, jam tomorrow, but never jam today?


Blue jobs became green jobs ... and still they don't materialise.

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