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 Post subject: Asleep on the job
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:20 pm 
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Millions of pounds of British aid money, the Daily Mail tells us, is funding coal-fired power stations in developing countries – even though their use is being scaled back in this country. It continues:

The level of spending on fossil-fuel plants by the World Bank, which receives billions from Britain, is "unacceptable" at a time when tough climate change measures are being rolled out at home, a "powerful committee" of MPs has declared. The bank is backing projects such as a 4,800megawatt coal-fired station in South Africa that is almost five times the size of those in the UK.

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 Post subject: Re: Asleep on the job
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:05 pm 
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Well they sold the plat from Drakelow A or was it B station to China!


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 Post subject: Re: Asleep on the job
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:19 pm 

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Whatever happened to 'joined-up government'?

This is what's to be expected with big top-down schemes hatched by a bureaucracy and carried out by a local government and branch of the bureaucracy, happy to carry out instructions and tick the right boxes and work through it like robots.

If the objective is to reduce global CO2 emissions then you have to think of the global consequences. Do windmillls save any CO2 over their life? Do any of these measures to tackle climate change save any CO2? What's the point of driving industry offshore to likely emit more carbon dioxide there if it's a global problem?

The objective is to comply with box ticking stupidity, apart from cashing in on the rackets.

The South African example also shows the line about "Britain setting the example in climate change" is threadbare.


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 Post subject: Re: Asleep on the job
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:19 pm 

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Duplicated post, couldn't see a way to delete it. Sorry.


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 Post subject: Re: Asleep on the job
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:21 pm 

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Reading this you can understand why people subscribe to the absurd conspiracy theory that we are being destroyed intentionally, because this story fits the theory snugly. So does the Somali immigrant story, as does the columnist of the Telegraph story who fails to delve into the costs, as does Benedict Brogan 'smooth over' on Cameron, and the destruction of the military, etc. One could be forgiven a little paranoia.

However, the World Bank, according to Wiki, only does loans, and expects repayment as a preferential creditor, so now I'm wondering why Britain gives billions to it, where does the money go.

Wiki also informs me that the first ever loan by the world bank was to France, but subject to the condition that the French removed 'Communist elements' from the Government, a condition that was complied with 'toute suite', and the French got their loan. If only this could be re-enacted with the British Government or the EU Commission.


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 Post subject: Re: Asleep on the job
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:31 pm 

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More of the same

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/06/24/poor_little_rich_country?page=full

Britain borrows money to give aid to India, India gives aid to Africa


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 Post subject: Re: Asleep on the job
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:19 pm 

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A bit of background on this one may be useful - but this is not to disagree one bit with the senselessness of UK energy and aid policies. The South African coal fired plant was to be financed commercially (tariffs were set to achieve that) until the Government owned parastatal made a couple of errors of judgment typical of Government owned enterprises. This threw the power sector into effective bankruptcy and the project into the hands of the dreaded multilaterals, and the World Bank would not guarantee coal fired generation,despite the fact that South Africa had no sensible alternative in the timescale and size needed (shale gas was an unknown then, for example).

The IPCC scenarios and the Stern review presume that developing countries will need to increase their emissions and use fossil fuel fired generation, but the World Bank is nevertheless extraordinarily reluctant to support coal fired generation. It is to South Africa's credit that it won the battle for World Bank support for one project, even though the project is delayed by 4-5 years as a consequence. The World Bank should do more of this as it actually helps developing countries, but it is doubtful if they will.

The developing countries that I deal with know full well that they need fossil fuels, and that wind and solar are not going to help them. Good for them. They are more perceptive than our own political and economic elites! And they do not seem to be suffering the climate catastrophes that were predicted.


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 Post subject: Re: Asleep on the job
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:21 pm 

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Ah but if you report something when iot is happening somebody might have to do something about it. The medai reported the false Kuwaiti "incubator babies" lie, the claim that the Serbs were engaged in genocide and the one about Gaddafi's forces being issued with viagra and sent out to rape. They are all useful stories at the time, even though any journalist above moron knows they are lies.

Then years later it get reported they have found out they were lies and report it, thus proving how much more honest they are now.


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