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 Post subject: Herd instinct
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:20 pm 
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"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one".

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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
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Here's an example of herd instinct. Pres Obama's birth certificate has been released, for some reason, long after requests to see it had bee ignored. The herd, as exemplified by the MSM, acclaim it as 'proof' of the President's birth in the territory of the USA. Here are videos which forensically dissect the claims to authenticity of the 'birth certificate' so comprehensively that the only question that remains is why was such a bad forgery ever put out by the White House. Is Obama being thrown to the wolves to make way for Hillary? How will the herd react?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsF ... r_embedded

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/1089.html


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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
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Here's an example of herd instinct. Pres Obama's birth certificate has been released, for some reason, long after requests to see it had bee ignored. The herd, as exemplified by the MSM, acclaim it as 'proof' of the President's birth in the territory of the USA. Here are videos which forensically dissect the claims to authenticity of the 'birth certificate' so comprehensively that the only question that remains is why was such a bad forgery ever put out by the White House. Is Obama being thrown to the wolves to make way for Hillary? How will the herd react?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsF ... r_embedded

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/1089.html


What about this?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04 ... ate-legit/

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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:57 am 

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From the Fox report:

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.

When a document is scanned, it's one layer. I haven't seen anything different and, if there were scanning of seveal layers, surely it would be used to replicate the layers in which the original document was constructed - emphasis on 'constructed'. Why would an original have to be constructed? (It's also worthwhile checking up on these 'experts', and who pays them.)

It's the pixellation of the signatures that is most intriguing.


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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
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Standing out from the 'herd' mentality is the tough thing.

Nary a one of our deaf, dumb and blinded political 'elite' dares to be different and the mass of the population are just as bad.

So the hidebound pedants of the PC Stasi.... have a field day, PC rools OK!

Senior coppers become steeped in the diversity brigade's mantra's and willingly prostrate themselves before the altar of Political correctness - and indulge in ever more lunatic displays [like children in a playground game of braggadocchio] - of adherence to the strict code of PC and diversity.

Top coppers surround themselves with like minded individuals - ie [thick] PC ideologues/bastards and the obligatory sycophantic yes-men/placemen..... It is the same where ever you look in British management and particularly in the upper echelons of the civil service. It pervades in all shades of politics and even in corporate boardrooms and sometimes heaven forbid in: private businesses [CBI].

A similar herd madness pervades the City whizz kids, who outdid each other to lose [other people's] most money ["it's not ours" and anyway we're too big to fail!"] and caused the great crash - no one dared to tell 'em to behave like prudent, responsible adults.

Everywhere - individual thinking is verboten! People who do not conform are chastised, ridiculed as loonies and mavericks etc.

All of them part of the herd psychosis, until someone speaks up, we are stuck with it.

This is exactly what the EU requires and we are the bonded serfs, or the herd awaiting orders to be corralled and lead off to the factories and in some cases, the ovens.


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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:45 am 
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RAENORTH wrote:
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one".


"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." - Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180)


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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:03 am 
Allan_Aberdeen wrote:
From the Fox report:

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.

When a document is scanned, it's one layer. I haven't seen anything different and, if there were scanning of seveal layers, surely it would be used to replicate the layers in which the original document was constructed - emphasis on 'constructed'. Why would an original have to be constructed? (It's also worthwhile checking up on these 'experts', and who pays them.)

It's the pixellation of the signatures that is most intriguing.

I'm with you on that one. This is one dumbfcuk abortion of a con. It's the pixellation stoopid.

And that 'expert', Jean-Claude Tremblay. What a complete c.... He sounds bloody pompous too. Puffed-up poncy frog.

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“I’d be more afraid it’d be fake if it was one in piece. It would be harder to check if it’s a good one if it’s a fake,” Tremblay said.

Ignoring the way he has expressed that (I guess English ain't his native tongue), just look at the non-sequitur logic of the shithead (he's probably read too much of the outpourings of those frog pomo fake intellectuelles). Someone puts up an incredibly stupid, amateurishly altered, flaming fcuking fake—bozo's braindead bestest—and the prick says it would be harder to check if it were one piece as if the absence of layering would make that solid-block pixellation harder to spot. GTF!

Besides, I'd be very surprised to hear that the software driving most scanners split the scan into more than one layer. Maybe some do but I'd give a 100 to one that they'd be specialist machines and you'd have to go out of your way to find one.

Looking over that pdf reveals quite a few other inconsistencies apart from the ones your man already mentioned. For example, the 'TANLEY' in 'STANLEY', the 'ENYA' in 'KENYA', and the pixellation in the numbering down the left side. But there are plenty of others all over the place.

It would be interesting to see a few copies of those birth certificates on either side or with surrounding numbers in the registration sequence.

I'm a rank amateur when it comes to picture manipulations but I've done a few (mainly for joker blogging purposes) using MS Paint and Office Picture Manager and I'm fairly familiar now with the way pixellations change for example between bitmap files and jpegs when one converts one to the other in the process of tweaking an image. Now I don't know what's going on here or how things were done but I reckon there's plenty of reason to be suspicious with this document. If I received something like it in connection with a financial transaction, say, I'd be calling plod pronto.

What stumps me is that the White House put this out. Hey! Maybe they've had a nepotistic influx of preferential-treatment diversoidal inadequates. Yes, that could explain it.


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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:20 am 
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Top coppers surround themselves with like minded individuals - ie [thick] PC ideologues/bastards and the obligatory sycophantic yes-men/placemen..... It is the same where ever you look in British management and particularly in the upper echelons of the civil service. It pervades in all shades of politics and even in corporate boardrooms and sometimes heaven forbid in: private businesses [CBI].

How strange. I was having very similar thoughts earlier yesterday.

You're certainly right about management too, and not only British — it seems to be a disease of the whole Western world. I remember years ago, and long before the word 'diversity' gained its full ominous meaning for your average Briton, listening to a presentation made in connection with a corporate restructure and its implications for the UK end. The presenter was a US head honcho. He used the term without explanation. Very vague it was too. Deliberately so it seemed to me. I couldn't make up my mind whether he was being sheepish about it—not it that mattered either way. Still, no one asked what he meant. That's because we knew what he meant. I did anyway. I was sorely tempted to miscontrue his intent and ask a 'naive' question to force the bugger to be explicit. But I'd learnt by then that that kind of indulgence is bad for one's wallet. It still pisses me off that I didn't have a go though. I detested the insidious way the whole thing was done. I didn't know the man well at all but I do know he was a good sort and highly intelligent. My guess is that he was a victim too, his head honchoness notwithstanding.

This shit is a big problem. But the solution isn't going to be some smooth transition back to normality. It's going to come in the form of some cusp-cracker 'adjustment' — you know, the snap state change beloved of catastrophy theorists. (Remember them? They died out smoothly. Probably in their sleep. :lol: Good riddance too.)


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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
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Echoing Mr Archers post I too have experienced this phenomenon back in the day when I used to help build warships for the Royal Navy, in fact when we still had fleet of ships worthy of the name!

This system of the 'higher ups' surrounding themselves with thickies and sycophants was present in both the MOD and the VSEL management structure. The thickies and sycophants really thought they had 'made it' because they assumed they were part of the higher ups club whereas the reality was they were simply there to make the higher up look good.

As I moved from building ships to maintaining shipyard infrastructure I noticed that this phenomenon pervaded every level of yard management. I found it fascinating at times and could quickly work out who 'wore the trousers' amongst any group of suits and more importantly from my work perspective who to go to to get things done.

Towards the end of my time in the yard when I was basically being paid to 'clock on' as some golf course deal had brought the myth that 'contractors are cheaper and better' to my world, I could see exactly the same thing going on in the contract companies. The only difference with the contract companies is the owners/directors/senior management who I came into contact with were all stupidity personified except in one area... they knew how to 'play the system' and get themselves plenty of public moolah as a result. Their companies may have been short lived and the work they did was always 'below par' but my god they could make some serious coin. Probably because the people they were dealing with inside the yard were of the same mind.

So not as thick as I thought they were?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:52 am 
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"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one".


Great quote!


Birth Certificate

I think it is fake. However, not all the "proofs" out there that this is a fraud are valid. For example, medical journal references (google scholar it) prove the hospital did exist under that name in 1961. American maps from the period show "Kenya" as a distinct region so it is possible for his father to be from Kenya. Some experts claim there is an innocent reason for the layers, others disagree. Perhaps he was called "African" rather than "Negro" or "Black" because his father was born in Africa.

However, there are other noted unanswered questions, like

1. Why did they not show the certificate two years earlier and claim the long form did not exist? I think they've even fought the issue in court. So they suddenly produce a pdf of it and we're supposed to not be surprised.

2. Is it significant the file number is out of sequence (is this claim confirmed)

3. Did U K L Lee (Ukulele) exist, or are the American people getting played

4. Are seals observable on original copy certificates from that period

5. Are contiguous sharp and pixilated regions within the image evidence of tampering

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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:37 am 

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@twl - for me, the main question is why such a bad fake was ever put out at all. This site revealed the dreadful photoshopping that went on in Lebanon and now the White House (the Establishment) sets up Obama with this poor quality mosaic intended to be passed off as a birth certificate.

For those who have just joined this thread, I implore you to watch the videos which I linked. Make up your own minds because the cover-up is now in full-swing so these videos may disappear.


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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:03 am 

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The Fox expert is talking out of his arse.
The certificate is a fake but if it wasn't Obummer they'd have got another face to front the scams. Get over it & see what we can do about real problems like...
When the traitors in Whitehall & Westminster are finally convicted of treason, do we...
a) Hang draw & quarter them or...
b) Skip the hanging & go straight to the fun part?

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I wonder why they chose a Canadian Kermit (resident in Quebec) whose first language isn't even English? Seems a long way to go when there must be plenty of English speaking Americans that are up to speed with Adobe.

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 Post subject: Re: Herd instinct
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:14 am 

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But I'd learnt by then that that kind of indulgence is bad for one's wallet.


I can attest to that John.

To keep stumm is [maybe] a more sensible course of action......?


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