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 Post subject: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:59 pm 
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The Grand Old Duke of York marched us up to the top of the hill, and marched us down again. That's Euroslime Dave for you. Having raised a faux campaign in order to give the impression he was doing something about the ECHR, he is actually doing nothing at all.

Now he has taken us to the pinnacle of nothingness, though, he can't even be bothered to lead us back down again. That has been delegated to his good and filthful servant, Kenneth Clarke. It is he who thus tells us that Britain will seek to kick-start reform of the Convention – which wasn't what was promised - just as Lord Woolf says there's "very little chance" of change, because it would mean persuading 47 countries who are all signed up to the Convention".

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:20 pm 

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Shami is part of the real parliament of Britain.


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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:58 pm 

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Is she old enough to be out without her Mother? I always thought that we had a "Bill of Rights", but that our politicians just ignore it, says something about not taking orders "from foreign prelates or princes", doesn't it? That must include the EU, you cannot get more foreign than that. PDT_Armataz_01_19


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:33 pm 

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... somebody ought to lead this little Shami gently by the nose ...

I thought somebody was, since Ms Chakrabarti has never shown many signs of having a mind of her own.


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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:46 pm 

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A.V.Dicey wrote:
The sovereignty of Parliament is, from a legal point of view, the dominant characteristic of our political institutions. And my readers will remember that Parliament consists of the King, the House of Lords, and the House of Commons acting together


The House of Commons has no Sovereignty on its own, and the poodle-packed upper chamber isn't anything that AVD would call a House of Lords

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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:46 pm 

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Looking closely at the photo,,,,, are you sure this is a she ??? it looks more like an it !

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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:23 pm 

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Mascara overload!!!!!!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:45 pm 

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The lady in question has one vital thing to teach MPs. You may not like her principles, but offend or please, she sticks to them like glue both when popular and unpopular.
Were she with us, she would show the same backbone.
How many MPs supposedly with us have shown backbone and guts ?


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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:57 pm 

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This Andrew Pierce article amplifies the hypocrisy.. Cameron has lost his photographer but has his oldest pal taken care of under the old pals act
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... s-act.html
"Feldman is the first salaried chairman in the modern Tory Party — and he is paid £120,000 a year.
Feldman hardly needs the money. He is a millionaire, and he surfaced in the political arena only after he raised money for Cameron’s leadership campaign. His family clothing company, Jayroma, also made its own £10,000 donation. What will really rile the rank and file is that some of Feldman’s salary comes out of the money they raise for the Party.
‘I was gobsmacked when I was told of his salary,’ says one member of the Conservative Party Board. ‘I thought the peerage and the prestige of the job would be enough reward.’
Shouldn’t the Tories — who are rightly lambasting local government fatcats for their grotesquely inflated salaries — practise what they preach?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... s-act.html


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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:06 pm 
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poodle-packed
A great turn of phrase. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:11 pm 

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Forget the Big Society, this is the Elite Society.



The Daily Mail is turning on Dave more and more each day..must be they are getting heat from readers.
The hypocrisy is underlined by columnist after columnist (clearly given the greenlight to do so).
This one is - in many parts- what I used to only read in North and Booker.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... bs-on.html
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With all his bluster about providing opportunity for all, you’d think Cameron would be embarrassed about selling hedge fund job experience to the sons and daughters of party supporters to boost its funds. But he got into politics via this cosy, insiders’ club route himself.
After leaving Oxford, the banker’s son became an ‘adviser’ to Tory Chancellor Norman Lamont. In other words, blue-chip work experience.



The Mail is almost gunning to get him out
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As a child of privilege — Eton, Oxford, the Bullingdon Club and fast-tracked into the Treasury — he knows intimately how the ruling class of Britain operates, who to contact, which favours to call in.
So he had two choices when he came into politics: go with the flow and do everything in his power to entrench the privileges he enjoyed, or use his inside knowledge of them to dismantle arrangements that are unfair to outsiders.
The shifty arrangements he made to keep secret the auction of City internships at his Black and White Party suggest he’s still a Bullingdon boy at heart, a keep-it-all-in-the-family phoney whose Big Society is little more than a PR exercise




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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:39 pm 

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Hypocrisy goes on: Cameron takes arms dealers with him on Egypt visit to promote democracy


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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:55 pm 

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Rhaan...your comment reminded me of this as well
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/colum ... Egypt.html
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Call Me Dave jets into Egypt. He is the first Western leader to visit the country since Mubarak was toppled. Why?
Dave should have steered well clear until it becomes apparent who is going to be in charge of Egypt this time next week.
No one has a clue just how this wave of popular revolt in the Middle East is going to end. My best guess is: badly.
We are going to have to deal with the last man standing, so it’s pointless taking a punt on the result just yet.
Our up-to-the-minute knowledge of the internal machinations of Libya seems to hinge on a man in a cardigan in West London and a woman in a headscarf from Manchester.
These are not opinions you want to be betting the farm on.
Dave’s got enough to do back home, without grandstanding in Egypt.
As Bob Dylan almost sang: there’s something happening here, but you don’t know what it is, do you, Mr Cameron?




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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:02 pm 

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Your link to the Telegraph takes us to the wisdom of Lord McNally who said -

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What is a good model in this country is we have the sovereignty of parliament and the independence of the judiciary.


Only a fool would pretend our parliament is truly sovereign and the UK judiciary independent. But then do remember MCNally is a Liberal Democrat, this explains a lot!

PS - Peter's makeover of the forum, - I like it.


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 Post subject: Re: She don't get it
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:45 pm 
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"The House of Commons has no Sovereignty on its own, and the poodle-packed upper chamber isn't anything that AVD would call a House of Lords"

Looking at at what that motley crew get dressed up in sometimes I think a Hose of Lords would be more appropriate

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