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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:00 am 
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The trouble with Hendry is that he is so stupid that he doesn't have enough brains to realise it. It is a pity, though, that his mummy didn't tell him that money doesn't grow on trees – so where does he think (if he can aspire to such a noble activity) – the money is going to come from to bribe communities to accept his accursed windmills?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:19 am 

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It's nice to see progress is being made in the fight against corruption.
Very encouraging, makes you proud to be living in the EU.


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 Post subject: Re: Other people's money
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:12 pm 
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.. the State is not something created by the already powerful. It is, instead, something captured by those who want to become powerful – and who cannot become powerful by any other means.

Without a state, there can be no exploitation. Without a state, the only transactions would be exchanges of value between free individuals from which all parties benefit according to their own conceptions of their interests. It is the State that can steal and kill. It is the State that raises up or calls into being groups that hope to benefit from the use of these powers, and that then constitute a ruling class.

Abolish the State – or severely limit its size and power – and class domination will fall to the ground. The groups that comprise the ruling class will either die like tapeworms in a dead rat, or will be forced to offer their services on terms attractive to willing buyers.


http://www.seangabb.co.uk/flcomm/flc183.htm

I think the tapeworms analogy is quite appropriate.....


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 Post subject: Re: Other people's money
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:11 pm 

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RAENORTH wrote:
The trouble with Hendry is that he is so stupid that he doesn't have enough brains to realise it. It is a pity, though, that his mummy didn't tell him that money doesn't grow on trees


Hendry may well be stupid (in Norman F. Dixon's sense of incompetence) but money actually does grow on trees if woodland is properly managed. Rotational coppicing, pollarding and harvesting of mature trees can provide a nice little regular unsubsidised income. Firewood, so popular with the wood-burning greenies, can be a by-product of timber production or main-cropped from willow coppices for example. Our ancestors understood that woodlands are not a static resource just to be looked at, walked or cycled through, or kept as a quasi-zoo of native flora and fauna, but the most efficient renewable energy and construction material resource.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:55 pm 

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I've always wondered about the safety aspect of this windmill, as it appears to be directly over offices. How, if at all, are the workers protected from dangerous malfunction? I read somewhere that some organisations were pressing for windmills not to be built within a kilometer or so of any buildings as broken bits of the blades can fly off substantial distances.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:04 pm 
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The trouble with Hendry is that he is so stupid that he doesn't have enough brains to realise it. It is a pity, though, that his mummy didn't tell him that money doesn't grow on trees


Hendry may well be stupid (in Norman F. Dixon's sense of incompetence) but money actually does grow on trees if woodland is properly managed. Rotational coppicing, pollarding and harvesting of mature trees can provide a nice little regular unsubsidised income. Firewood, so popular with the wood-burning greenies, can be a by-product of timber production or main-cropped from willow coppices for example. Our ancestors understood that woodlands are not a static resource just to be looked at, walked or cycled through, or kept as a quasi-zoo of native flora and fauna, but the most efficient renewable energy and construction material resource.


No it doesn't grow on trees ... it comes when you exchange the managed products from a forest, but that is not the same thing. The money comes from the management and the economic activity related thereto.

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 Post subject: Re: Other people's money
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:22 pm 

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I am glad that the DM is using this article. Now when other MSM tell the truth about wind turbines then the populace as a whole will finally let the penny drop. Trouble is, we still have the BBC who many people believe tell the truth!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:26 pm 

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Business rates paid by the owners of wind farms will be fed straight back into the local economy, rather than going to the Treasury as at present. And planning reform under the Localism Bill will give councils more powers to reject developers and build their own wind farms for profit.


This is the most sinister part, it looks like he will allow councils to build their own farms and seeing as how they are all sold on Mellon bullshit and also flat broke, we could end up haveing a huge amount of these farms foisted on us and find it almost impossible to reject them, as the Councils control the planning. This is Mellon madness by diktat,

Yet again I find myself feeling very happy that I never voted for these morons, but lost for words at their never ending idiocy.

PS I see Louise has been re-named as Loopy Lou...very apt.


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 Post subject: Re: Other people's money
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:41 pm 

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I know the district where this wind turbine is. It sits next to a very busy junction on the M4. The sort of junction at which the traffic backs up very easily. Many a driver must have slowly passed by and marvelled at its equally leisurely rotation. Then they might have wondered if the vast amount of public money that has gone into this folly might have been better spent on another infrastructure project. It is a local laughing stock as on a windless night the office estate on which it is located has a lot of lights on. Now who is providing the energy for that?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:07 pm 
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I know the district where this wind turbine is. It sits next to a very busy junction on the M4. The sort of junction at which the traffic backs up very easily. Many a driver must have slowly passed by and marvelled at its equally leisurely rotation. Then they might have wondered if the vast amount of public money that has gone into this folly might have been better spent on another infrastructure project. It is a local laughing stock as on a windless night the office estate on which it is located has a lot of lights on. Now who is providing the energy for that?


You are imagining this ... you see, it's a very clever machine ... with a secret device to make the blades look still, when they're actually thrashing away.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:32 pm 
It's such a clever machine that when its blades turn on a mild day you can never be quite sure if they are being propelled by the modest amount of wind or if they are in fact taking power from the grid to prevent continuous stresses bearing on the same part of the mechanism.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:15 pm 

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It seeems there was less wind last year - is this due to global warming i wonder?

http://www.ref.org.uk/publications/217- ... utput-2010

[Low Wind Power Output 2010
In today’s Times (02.02.11) it is reported that Scottish and Southern Energy (SSE) has published data confirming that its wind turbine fleet has reported a 20% reduction in energy generation in the last year. SSE is said to have released this data in response to requests from concerned shareholders. ........................... more

An interesting article which confirms what we already know - its even worse than the DM article says!
eg 7 December 2010 - total load = 60,050 MW - UK wind fleet of 5,200 MW was producing a modest 300 MW (i.e Load Factor of 5.8%)


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 Post subject: Re: Other people's money
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:18 pm 

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Hunting:
Open a 12 gauge shotgun cartridge remove the pellets, pore in hot candle wax and then replace the pellets and close the cartridge and seal it with the hot wax. ( this gives you a soild shot )
Now you are ready to go windmill hunting, one shot into a blade will cause plus minus 150,000 pounds of damage.

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 Post subject: Re: Other people's money
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:51 pm 
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Desperation I'd say…

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthn ... -farm.html

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 Post subject: Re: Other people's money
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:47 pm 

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Open a 12 gauge shotgun cartridge remove the pellets, pore in hot candle wax and then replace the pellets and close the cartridge and seal it with the hot wax. ( this gives you a soild shot )


That's an old country trick for shooting out rooks' nests I believe. If you replace the lead shot with blu-tack you get quite a good rubber bullet.


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