Change font size
It is currently Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:01 pm


Post a new topicPost a reply Page 1 of 2   [ 27 posts ]
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:23 am 
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:11 am
Posts: 24869
Location: Bradford
You know that the MSM have totally lost it when they are lauding that loser John Major – who is now arguing that the Cleggeron coalition should continue after the next election. WfW is suitably disgusted, but perhaps Major has a point. The not-the-Tory-Party and the Lib-Dims should combine permanently, but they should go further and take in the Labour Party as well. There is nothing between them of any significance.

View full article here

_________________
We are a satellite state of the Greater European Empire, ruled by a supreme government in Brussels. We owe this government neither loyalty nor obedience. It is not our government. It is theirs. It is our enemy.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:40 am 

Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:47 pm
Posts: 489
Location: Lytham St Annes, Lancashire, England
Who gives a fucking bollox?

Just save your wine bottles and expanded polystyrene packaging (a useful tip for which I thank you).

My apologies for the 'profanity', as the Americans might describe my language, but I'm fucking pissed off and I've been drinking, and I've over eaten. So, again, I ask: Who gives a fucking bollox?

Here's to comrade Molotov and the poor man's recipe for Napalm!

To paraphrase that old Christmas classic: 'Coppers Screaming on an open fire ... '

Cunts!


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:27 am 

Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:24 pm
Posts: 429
Location: Shropshire/London
As The Tea Party makes headway in the US, the media is shifting its stance, opening up to meet the demand for more open debate and accurate information.

e.g.http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2010/11/fox-news-opens-its-mind-about-911-being.html

They can hardly have Fox News going Tea Party exposing 911 as an inside job, and Sky staying on as a Bildeberg channel. The BBC will be stranded.

The Express is another recent shift. As the Euro disintegrates, any party or media of the future should be positioning to gain by going for truth, independence and anti-indebtedness.

In Britain, the Conservatives are locked in with Cameron, unable to budge. If they don't dump me-too Blairism soon, UKIP will be in the right zone to assume third party status as the Libs and the Cons merge into the EUCLIDS. Alternatively the Cons could split into UKConservatives and EUConservatives, but that is less likely to occur.

Once the Tea Partiers have won Congress and the Presidency, George Bush is on trial for treason, and 911 and 7/7 are fully exposed, the political scene will have shifted a million miles from where it currently is. The ''climate'' victory of this blog has been a significant part of the changes in the US. Similar changes are bound to feed through to the UK and Europe.

_________________
www.the-tap.blogspot.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:15 am 

Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:21 am
Posts: 54
To the Honorable Sir Richard North:

I think I mentioned this in an email to you - and it could spread as well after recent events in Ireland, people are just tired of the chit on both sides of the Atlantic

As much as the Scots seem to be lost - remember the movie Brave Heart, you could be the entire Isles William Wallace, although I can't see you on a horse but whatever

Its a burden - but somebody has to do it

PS - I don't think they do that stretching thing anymore over there do they? I think they called it drawn and quartered. so you should be good

Bigger Than Jagger


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:23 am 

Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:12 pm
Posts: 1441
Lots to ponder on recently, mad Angie was gurgling in her baby food the other day summat about, "the Euro will never must never fall!"
Did she ask her (fellow) Teutonic electorate first though, I wonder?

She is very unpopular, looks like Fritz and Heidi are looking at a very frigid Winter, puts people into bad moods. Germany is the key, I know I am going over old ground but if the German electorate wakes up, then the EU is doomed. Does Europe want/need a resurgent and nationalistic Germany?

Over this side of the channel, same old sh£t from the tired old Tosser party/Libdhimmi Axis, aye, if you throw in 'Wallace' Milipeeds lot (there is no difference 'twixt the three of 'em - they're all socialists of one shade or another).
What do we have left?
I watched a clip of Farrage in (wherever-Strasbourg or was it Brussels - who cares?) the MEP midden, it was a startling diatribe and great theatre, on his day, he's a formidable orator and can be searingly snide, Hannan (orations) too in the 'midden' can be exhilarating - another great hope [why does he remain in the tosser party?].
UKIP, is the party, why are they not making headway?


UKIP, is the natural home of small c cons and liberty loving Brits of all persuasions, the trouble is, after good old Nigel..........who else is there?
Hannan, would be great, but he is loath to declare for another bunch - he knows if he toes the line (like Hague) he will have a cosy sinecure - somewhere eventually, with Hannan it is a question of 'bottle and principle' over one's natural instinct (human) for an easy ride in life.
And, that is just it, we know in our heart of hearts, Britain is better off out of European domination but the old dog has grown used to being the lapdog, going out into the world and foraging and scrounging a living once again, is anathema to many and the siren calls of the EU tell us, that, that is so {we're better together].


If we could be free of the shackles of the EU hydra, the cost of living would shrink, everything in Britain is that much more expensive than it would be if we'd could control our own tariffs and borders, we do NOT live in a FREE MARKET, Britain is the most expensive place to live, when compared to, much of the rest of Europe - why do the Brits allow this??
I'll give you examples; long haul flights, gas prices - petroleum, rail fares [intercity], car prices, food, booze - the list is much longer.

Secondly, we are (in Britain a massive sociology lab) an experiment, German Universities try out ideas on the Brits, domestic waste disposal is one type of human experiment.
'They' want us to stop shoving all our waste into landfill sites [why God only knows - summat about Belgium and Holland running out of landfill sites] so they look round Europe and think.........."who is the most forbearing and law abiding people in the Empire?"
The British copped for it yet again, lets face it we've allowed our seas to be 'raped' by foreign fleets, with barely a whimper. So fining folks for dumping the wrong waste in the wrong bin comes easy - why the Fu$7 do we put up with this bollocks?? There is no landfill shortage of sites in the UK! The waste doesn't/isn't recycled - it's all a big joke - to see how far they can push us!!

So how do we get out of the Evil Union tyranny?.................

UKIP, have two major problems, they are not communicating effectively enough!
And they need many more prospective MPS who are the calibre of Farrage. The groundswell is there, it needs a focus, the Express, UKIP etc, need a coalescing movement and meeting of minds, we require a: Bring Back Great Britain Campaign


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:35 am 

Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:39 pm
Posts: 129
Isn't it high time someone fed that federalist rentboy, John "Blandalf the Grey" Major, to a honking great balrog?


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:46 am 

Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:08 pm
Posts: 241
Quote:
UKIP, have two major problems, they are not communicating effectively enough!


Too right! Nigel does, and was excellent on BBC QT. Clarke looked deeply embarrassed and shifty.

UKIP badly need to revamp their whole PR machine IMO and get around the country - maybe they're broke?


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:58 am 
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:11 am
Posts: 24869
Location: Bradford
graham wood wrote:
Quote:
UKIP, have two major problems, they are not communicating effectively enough!


Too right! Nigel does, and was excellent on BBC QT. Clarke looked deeply embarrassed and shifty.

UKIP badly need to revamp their whole PR machine IMO and get around the country - maybe they're broke?


Communication is the least of UKIP's problems. You put your finger on part of it ... the fact that it is a one-man band ... Farage ... who has systematically hounded the talent out of the party, surrounding himself with toadies. There is no depth to the party, and nor will there be as long as Farage is leader.

If there is to be a real opposition, therefore, it won't be UKIP. It will be UKIP members, but it will need another party to give them an effective framework.

_________________
We are a satellite state of the Greater European Empire, ruled by a supreme government in Brussels. We owe this government neither loyalty nor obedience. It is not our government. It is theirs. It is our enemy.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:03 pm 

Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:34 pm
Posts: 165
The only good news in British politics is that we are going to have a referendum on voting reform. It is not a real democratic electoral system of course but it will cease to disenfranchise anybody who votes for an opposition party. UKUIP are already pushing thje LudDims in the polls (admitteldly more because the latter are crashing) & I expect them to be Britain's favourite party at the next EU elections, paradoxically the only actual dempcratic election we have so their growth can certainly be guaranteed. Whether it will be fast enough is another matter.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:02 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 12:57 pm
Posts: 54
Two points:

1. We are not ruled by the politicians we elect, but by their "advisers". At every level, from Parish Council upwards, the paid adviser tells the representative what he/she must/should do, and of the consequences should they fail. One remarkably brave piece of councillor disobedience was the removal of street furniture from Kensington High Street. Because they disobeyed the instructions in the DfT Roads Manual, each individual councillor was personally liable for the consequences.

Until we get to kick out all the civil servants at local and national level and start again, we will not win. For otherwise, the politicians will all "go native" as quickly as the Cameroons have. (Just how many election pledges is it that they have now welched on?) My suggestion is that we limit each politician to one term only throughout their entire lifetime. And that we never appoint civil servants, only accept them on secondment from private business if they have directly relevant experience. Again they should be limited to a single period on the public teat, a period not exceeding five years.

2. If UKIP do win at the next election, because of the lack of depth to which Richard refers, they will crash and burn within the one Parliament, utterly destroyed. We no longer have time on our side, we cannot afford to be back again at this point nine years hence. The realistic experienced alternative must be building now, ready to take on UKIP as well as the LibLabCon party at the next election.

_________________
Sometimes I sits and thinks, but mostly I just sits.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:43 pm 

Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:11 am
Posts: 6700
Quote:
My suggestion is that we limit each politician to one term only throughout their entire lifetime

Churchill was a career politician but also an executive politician. He left the Sir Humphreys in no doubt as to who wore the trousers.
The problem is the separation into bureaucrats in the civil service running elected glove puppets.

_________________
If you don't get grumpy as you grow older then you aren't paying attention


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:32 pm 

Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:11 pm
Posts: 864
Location: The European State of Insanity
Tapestry wrote:
911 as an inside job


Seriously, tap? Trutherism now? Come on.

_________________
Graham Dawson
--
Image
[RN Fan 1A]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:33 pm 
Nice post, Yokel.

Mostly though, I just wanted to say you have a great avatar and 'sign-off'. PDT_Armataz_01_34


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:45 pm 

Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:59 pm
Posts: 1862
Ravenscar wrote:
Lots to ponder on recently, mad Angie was gurgling in her baby food the other day summat about, "the Euro will never must never fall!"
Did she ask her (fellow) Teutonic electorate first though, I wonder?

She is very unpopular, looks like Fritz and Heidi are looking at a very frigid Winter, puts people into bad moods. Germany is the key, I know I am going over old ground but if the German electorate wakes up, then the EU is doomed. Does Europe want/need a resurgent and nationalistic Germany?

That is a spectre used to keep German people from looking after their own. It's not that it could not be repeated but that even completely ignoring the EU it is unlikely. The EU isn't stopping Germany slipping into expansionist military action and fascism the horror of what happened is, the German constitution is, NATO is, the US is.

The EU could fall tomorrow and Germany would be no closer to repeating its history. Once Germans realise *that* the EU becomes irrelevant.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: A real opposition
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:46 pm 

Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:24 pm
Posts: 429
Location: Shropshire/London
Quote:
Trutherism now? Come on.

No. That sounds like a religion. I just don't like being lied to.

_________________
www.the-tap.blogspot.com


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post a new topicPost a reply Page 1 of 2   [ 27 posts ]
Go to page 1, 2  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
610nm Style by Daniel St. Jules of Gamexe.net