Change font size
It is currently Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:01 am


Post a new topicPost a reply Page 1 of 1   [ 10 posts ]
Author Message
 Post subject: The Wright stuff
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:37 am 
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:11 am
Posts: 24869
Location: Bradford
People don't like bird choppers. More than 230 separate local campaign groups against wind farms are operating across the UK, from Scotland and Kent to Norfolk, Yorkshire and Cornwall. These groups are scoring striking successes in defeating planned wind farms – even when faced with the weight of official recommendations. This is Oliver Wright, the paper's "Whitehall Editor" – whatever that is. Note his incredulous tone: " ... even when faced with the weight of official recommendations". The Independent should listen to itself. "Official recommendations ... ". Hmmmm.

View full article here

_________________
We are a satellite state of the Greater European Empire, ruled by a supreme government in Brussels. We owe this government neither loyalty nor obedience. It is not our government. It is theirs. It is our enemy.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Wright stuff
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:49 am 

Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:27 pm
Posts: 1074
Location: Oxford, UK
How wonderful of the Indy to stand up for centralist control over mere localism. Is this what the paper has as its principle?


And if we fail to meet the targets...then what? What tragedy or punishment may befall? SFA?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Wright stuff
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:42 am 
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:05 pm
Posts: 489
The Campaign Against Windfarms which they reference needs help to sort out its website imo.

Good cause, bad site.

http://www.countryguardian.net/

_________________
John Page
http://thepurplescorpion.blogspot.com/
http://benefitfraud.blogspot.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Wright stuff
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:43 am 

Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:52 am
Posts: 225
From the Indy article :

Quote:
Mr Hird added that one of the problems they faced was the huge subsidies available to farmers prepared to have wind farms on their land.


Are these subsidies paid by the developers from their revenues ? (And hence, of course, from the subsidised price of the electricity they sell.)

Or are these subsidies paid directly by the public sector somehow - i.e., a whole new stream of public money being wasted, in addition to the ROCs ?


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Wright stuff
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:52 am 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:05 am
Posts: 239
This is a straight fight between moralistic policies (those which make politicians feel noble and good about themselves) and moral policies (those which benefit the people).

Given the low level of moral character of the UK's political leadership, I cannot believe they will allow ordinary people to defy them for much longer.

Expect all forms of renewable energy to be declared a matter of 'national security', enabling central government to override local objections.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Wright stuff
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:33 am 

Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:39 pm
Posts: 129
I believe the Independent is due a rebranding. I suggest Westminster Village Idiot Times.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Wright stuff
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:52 am 

Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:59 pm
Posts: 1862
Rick Bradford wrote:
This is a straight fight between moralistic policies (those which make politicians feel noble and good about themselves) and moral policies (those which benefit the people).

Given the low level of moral character of the UK's political leadership, I cannot believe they will allow ordinary people to defy them for much longer.

Expect all forms of renewable energy to be declared a matter of 'national security', enabling central government to override local objections.

That's a good way of defining our representatives. Too many of them have forgotten who is supposed to benefit/be protected from them doing their duty.

RE: The Wright stuff

Quote:
So the Wright stuff laments: "The situation is typified by instances such as those in North Yorkshire, where local politicians recently vetoed plans to build seven turbines in the face of official advice that they should go-ahead after a concerted local campaign." God! How bad can this bet. Local politicians rejected "official advice"! The world is coming to an end.


There have been campaigns against wind farms for years and years. Pretty much wherever they outline sites. God only knows why the media haven't noticed until now. The planning process is usually a completely local matter. That the government recommends turbines be built isn't magically going to make them get approval.

There are sound reasons why applications get stopped too - they do blot landscapes, they do cause noise and light disturbances, they do kill wildlife, the generating capacity isn't what is promised, the lifespan of the kit isn't what is promised, failures can be substantial and dangerous ranging from exploding turbines, turbines that shake themselves to bits or throwing chunks of ice for hundreds of metres.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Wright stuff
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:55 am 

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:32 am
Posts: 117
"wind farms may be needed to combat global warming"

Are we meant to sit in front of them for a nice cool breeze?


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Wright stuff
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:24 am 

Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:04 am
Posts: 32
I couldn't believe this when I saw it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8101281/Climate-change-game-launched.html

the header for the article reads.

"An educational computer game in which users have to save the world from climate change offers an interesting solution – decide the problem is overpopulation and design a virus to kill millions."

Did they learn nothing from the disastrous 10:10 film.

_________________
"If a man has a tame white bear, then he is to handle it in the same way as a dog and similarly pay for damages it does."
Grágás, the Icelandic book of Laws


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Wright stuff
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:45 am 
RAENORTH wrote:
...coming "on-stream" (becoming active)...

I agree — better safe than sorry.

After all, you never know what class of impersonage might be toonin' in.


Top
  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post a new topicPost a reply Page 1 of 1   [ 10 posts ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Yahoo [Bot] and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
610nm Style by Daniel St. Jules of Gamexe.net