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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:07 am 
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Julian Williams and Shub Niggurath co-author a guest post over at Bishop Hill, taking on George Monbiot and his defence of the tainted Pachauri – all under the title "George Monbiot: scrubbing the record clean". Meanwhile, just in case you are wondering, the Press Complaints Commission complaint against Monbiot, The Guardian and The Sunday Times proceeds apace. All the preliminaries have been dealt with and there has been a robust "exchange of views". Now, the issue is scheduled to go to the full panel of newspaper editors for adjudication during their next meeting in October.

Speaking of The Sunday Times ...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:19 pm 

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most stories would not actually qualify as news


Watching the promotional advertisments for the Murdoch Times & Sunday Times on Television is all I need to know that I don't want to buy the damn thing. If you wish to know about Simon Cowell then the Sunday Times is for you. Personally I'd rather gnaw my own knackers off than read tedious drivel about that media nonentity. With that quality of article why waste money on the ST when you could buy Hello!?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:28 pm 
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I hope those supplements go straight to the recycling Bin Richard. Heaven forbid a recyclable should end up in landfill.

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I hope those supplements go straight to the recycling Bin Richard. Heaven forbid a recyclable should end up in landfill.


No, quite deliberately, they go into the refuse bin ... that way, they go direct to the landfill instead of taking the more circuitous route via the recycling centre.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:07 pm 
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At least they take the direct route – think of all the carbon saved! One supplement going direct to the landfill once a week for a year...... by my calculation........would keep a polar bear in fish for six minutes.... or so the story goes.
Other Carbon savings you could make while cooking the Sunday dinner (provided to me in my last electric bill) include

1. Keep saucepan lids on during cooking allowing you to turn the heat down
2. Match the saucepan base to the size of the cooking element
3. Resist temptation to open the oven door to check the food while cooking
4. Use a microwave for small portions

Stick to that and you’re on your way to Carbon Salvation.

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AnIrishMan wrote:
At least they take the direct route – think of all the carbon saved! One supplement going direct to the landfill once a week for a year...... by my calculation........would keep a polar bear in fish for six minutes.... or so the story goes.
Other Carbon savings you could make while cooking the Sunday dinner (provided to me in my last electric bill) include

1. Keep saucepan lids on during cooking allowing you to turn the heat down
2. Match the saucepan base to the size of the cooking element
3. Resist temptation to open the oven door to check the food while cooking
4. Use a microwave for small portions

Stick to that and you’re on your way to Carbon Salvation.


I suppose the ultimate Sunday dinner savings is to eat a torfu sandwich ... that way, by the end of the quarter, you might have saved enough pennies to pay the renewable energy supplements on your electricity bill.

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 Post subject: Re: Rub-a-dub-scrub
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"Mr Murdoch will not be losing any sleep at my rejection of his products," ---or at anyone's rejections. Otherwise why would he persist in policies that ensure diminishing circulation? Presumably he and other media generators don't imagine that higher prices and lower quality sells newspapers: especially in an economy like this one. So perhaps short-term profit from advertisers is the goal---along with demise of all printed sources of opposition to our political Masters?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:15 pm 
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euSSR Go Home wrote:
"Mr Murdoch will not be losing any sleep at my rejection of his products," ---or at anyone's rejections. Otherwise why would he persist in policies that ensure diminishing circulation? Presumably he and other media generators don't imagine that higher prices and lower quality sells newspapers: especially in an economy like this one. So perhaps short-term profit from advertisers is the goal---along with demise of all printed sources of opposition to our political Masters?


You do wonder what his real agenda is ... it can't be to make money! Many of his media enterprises are losing it hand over fist.

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Never quite understood the logic of winning more customers by raising prices...but then there's a lot I don't understand.
However, I'm not entirely stupid (though many woud disagree) & indulge in displacement activity, including 'what if' ideas to get this country out of its currect midden.
My latest incandescent-bulb-in-a-bubble-over-the-head is to invite Palin & O'Donnell (only if she allows us to continue to masturbate) over here for a while to help us find our balls.
As we are incapable of the 'brewery' option, they could perhaps show us how to organise a Tea Party & stop being fcuked about.
Are we not taxed without a scintilla of representation?

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 Post subject: Re: Rub-a-dub-scrub
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This compares with four (stories) on the current front page of The Sunday Times and less on most of the rest of the pages


And it gets worse; most of those articles are copy and paste jobs from press releases!

Flat Earth News: An Award-winning Reporter Exposes Falsehood, Distortion and Propaganda in the Global Media
Nick Davies (Author)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Flat-Earth-News ... 0701181451

Davies has researched this issue and gives a plausible explanation as to why it happens.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:30 pm 
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This compares with four (stories) on the current front page of The Sunday Times and less on most of the rest of the pages


And it gets worse; most of those articles are copy and paste jobs from press releases!

Flat Earth News: An Award-winning Reporter Exposes Falsehood, Distortion and Propaganda in the Global Media
Nick Davies (Author)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Flat-Earth-News ... 0701181451

Davies has researched this issue and gives a plausible explanation as to why it happens.


I don't have a problem with press releases, per se - some of them are better written and more informative than the press copy. But when they paste them in almost verbatim and then add their by-lines, these journos are pushing their luck. They seem to forget that we can look up the original copy on the net ... and check the many journals that have used it, and see the wholesale plagiarism. Some of the pieces have more journalists claiming authorship than they have words.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:11 pm 
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http://www.agu.org/news/press/pr_archiv ... 0-29.shtml

Pallava Bagla,the reporter for NDTV and Science magazine has been given an award by the AGU. The "David Perlman Award for Excellence in Science Journalism".

He says: (Interview in Columbia Journalism Review http://www.cjr.org/the_observatory/qa_c ... e_ipcc.php)
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But, possibly none of them, including myself, could summon the necessary courage to question the IPCC, a body of 2,500 of the very best climate specialists. But then, when after a much-prolonged investigation the collective opinion of many glaciologists tipped the balance against the IPCC opinion, we decided to go public, and, in the end, the huge scramble to meet the news deadline for the ministerial announcement was exciting.


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But, I guess it is fair that given the error was "publicized" first by Bagla.

What is however ironic, is that journalists get awards, whereas bloggers and researchers get lawsuits.


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