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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:43 am 
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Love him or hate him, he's got something going here. "Something beyond imagination is happening". And the democraps hate it. I'm jealous. If only we could get something like that going here.

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 Post subject: Re: Restoration
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There was a simultaneous rally held by Rev. Al Sharpton, the genial loudmouth who first was known for supporting a libeller (even the NY Times couldn't swallow it) and for advocating violence against non-black storekeepers in black neighborhoods (yes, it worked). His group was maybe three thousand.
The liberals hate this sort of thing, so they said that Glenn Beck's rally got "tens of thousands." This was true: thirty or more tens. They also said that two or three thousand people went marching with Sharpton, not mentioning that this was his entire audience.
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 Post subject: Re: Restoration
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Love him or hate him, he's got something going here. "Something beyond imagination is happening". And the democraps hate it. I'm jealous. If only we could get something like that going here.



I wish you guys could get something like this going, too. The UK has SO much history to be proud of, and so much character that needs to be restored. The Battle of Britain, for instance, as you are commenting on, set an idealistic vision of Brits as people who slog on forward no matter what the odds. Then there was the jolly lot who took the world by storm when the Beatles came along. I would SO love to see that UK again. I think it's actually there, but shut up by the PC crowd as we were for so long.

We were pushed TOO far. November is going to be VERY telling, and on November 3, the libs in the MSM are going to be doing their stories about how the US threw another temper tantrum. PDT_Armataz_01_34

Because the House of Representatives holds the purse strings, we can stop Obama cold by refusing to fund his little social science projects. It isn't likely that we can repeal things like Obamacare as long as Obama holds the VETO pen, but by refusing to fund them, Congress can put a nasty rain on his parade.

Here's hoping that the newly elected Congress in 2011 "gets it".

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 Post subject: Re: Restoration
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:37 am 
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We were pushed TOO far. November is going to be VERY telling, and on November 3, the libs in the MSM are going to be doing their stories about how the US threw another temper tantrum. PDT_Armataz_01_34



If you are being pushed too far Mamapajamas why are Americans allowing people to be evicted, refused employment/medical treatment, banned from parks/beaches without a murmur, because they smoke? What goes on over there comes over here. Yet no one wants to know about his insidiousness because they don't like the smell. I want to see the fat pigs Stan Glanzt & John Banzhaff (lawyer) get their come uppance one day, the sooner the better as these two have been the main instigators of the anti-smoking shits, carrying out an agenda planned years ago by Godber & the WHO.

LA is now giving stimulus money to the anti-smoking lobby. Almost bankrupt, yet can find money for these evil devils and no one say's anything. To say your politicans are corrupt, like ours, is an understatement.

Like the climate change devils the anti-smoking devils have to keep going to assure their employment & funding/grants and big pharmas profits.

Still perhaps at last the US is waking up to what's going on, but I deapair of the donks over here ever having the get up and go to get off their arses and do anything. What we have here is a majority with hunched shoulders where they're always shrugging them saying 'but what can you do'. They'll probably all end up on incapacity benefit where they can't un-hunch them. PDT_Armataz_01_22 PDT_Armataz_01_22


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 Post subject: Re: Restoration
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:14 am 
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rosie wrote:
mamapajamas wrote:

We were pushed TOO far. November is going to be VERY telling, and on November 3, the libs in the MSM are going to be doing their stories about how the US threw another temper tantrum. PDT_Armataz_01_34



If you are being pushed too far Mamapajamas why are Americans allowing people to be evicted, refused employment/medical treatment, banned from parks/beaches without a murmur, because they smoke? What goes on over there comes over here. Yet no one wants to know about his insidiousness because they don't like the smell. I want to see the fat pigs Stan Glanzt & John Banzhaff (lawyer) get their come uppance one day, the sooner the better as these two have been the main instigators of the anti-smoking shits, carrying out an agenda planned years ago by Godber & the WHO.

LA is now giving stimulus money to the anti-smoking lobby. Almost bankrupt, yet can find money for these evil devils and no one say's anything. To say your politicans are corrupt, like ours, is an understatement.

Like the climate change devils the anti-smoking devils have to keep going to assure their employment & funding/grants and big pharmas profits.

Still perhaps at last the US is waking up to what's going on, but I deapair of the donks over here ever having the get up and go to get off their arses and do anything. What we have here is a majority with hunched shoulders where they're always shrugging them saying 'but what can you do'. They'll probably all end up on incapacity benefit where they can't un-hunch them. PDT_Armataz_01_22 PDT_Armataz_01_22


There is absolutely NO accounting for California, particularly LA and SF.

Both of those cities are completely out of touch with reality.

One of the main reasons it's happening is because conservatives have been leaving California in droves, leaving only welfare queens and la-la land liberals to run things. And everything they do like the stupid things you mentioned is making the rest of us take notice.

We have ALREADY awakened. Right now, political party preference, which has been pretty much 50-50 since the founding of the Gallup poll in the '40s, has Republicans up 10 points above Democrats. This is an unprecedented spread... even in 1994, when the Republicans seized control of the House and Senate during the Clinton administration, the divide was only 5 points.

You have no idea what is happening here. PDT_Armataz_01_34

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 Post subject: Re: Restoration
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:15 pm 
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mamapajamas wrote:

You have no idea what is happening here. PDT_Armataz_01_34



I do try to keep up. The last lunatic I saw on a US news programme was a chinese official in San Francisco, who is pushing to ban Pepsi. Probably got a back hander from Coca Cola to do away with the competition.

From what I've read of California & SF they've become totally detached from reality. They really should be cut loose from normal, decent people, because you can't call the people who keep voting for these lunatics, although they're lunatics who know exactly what they're doing, normal.

We have more than our fair share of, know what they're doing lunatics, here. How about we do a swap our lunatics for your normal, then they can all be coralled in Cali & SF. PDT_Armataz_01_22

I read an article that a woman in California, wants smoking banned in the complex she lives because the SHS seeping through the walls has caused her grandson to develop asthma, this woman was built like a tank. Now what's funny was a couple of days later a woman of similar build was having her nails done, in the same state, and was charged an extra $5 in case she broke the chair, the cry went up discrimination against fat people. So I'm just wondering if the first tank woman will be leading the protests when someome calls for fat people to be evicted/banned from housing because they put on a strain on the foundations, it's bound to happen because the campaign against fat people has started in earnest, courtesy of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, they've cut back on anti-smoking funds & putting it all into anti-fat. I don't mean to be nasty but I really hopes this happens it might just alert the masses to the malignant social engineers that has infected society worldwide, plus to give tubby, complaining non-smokers a taste of their own medicine. Only complaining ones though, the others I have much sympathy for them of what they've got to come.


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 Post subject: Re: Restoration
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:04 pm 
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I do try to keep up. The last lunatic I saw on a US news programme was a chinese official in San Francisco, who is pushing to ban Pepsi. Probably got a back hander from Coca Cola to do away with the competition.

From what I've read of California & SF they've become totally detached from reality. They really should be cut loose from normal, decent people, because you can't call the people who keep voting for these lunatics, although they're lunatics who know exactly what they're doing, normal.

We have more than our fair share of, know what they're doing lunatics, here. How about we do a swap our lunatics for your normal, then they can all be coralled in Cali & SF. PDT_Armataz_01_22

I read an article that a woman in California, wants smoking banned in the complex she lives because the SHS seeping through the walls has caused her grandson to develop asthma, this woman was built like a tank. Now what's funny was a couple of days later a woman of similar build was having her nails done, in the same state, and was charged an extra $5 in case she broke the chair, the cry went up discrimination against fat people. So I'm just wondering if the first tank woman will be leading the protests when someome calls for fat people to be evicted/banned from housing because they put on a strain on the foundations, it's bound to happen because the campaign against fat people has started in earnest, courtesy of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, they've cut back on anti-smoking funds & putting it all into anti-fat. I don't mean to be nasty but I really hopes this happens it might just alert the masses to the malignant social engineers that has infected society worldwide, plus to give tubby, complaining non-smokers a taste of their own medicine. Only complaining ones though, the others I have much sympathy for them of what they've got to come.


You are doing a stellar job of trying to keep track of the insanity in the US... there is just so much of it going on now, the public backlash in November is going to be spectacular. I look forward to hearing the November 3 news stories on how America threw another "temper tantrum". PDT_Armataz_01_14

Here's one you didn't mention... in Los Angeles recently, a new school was opened. It cost $600 million. For the building. It is an architechtural showcase.

This shows their complete detatchment from reality... they could have built ten $60 million schools, or 20 $30 million schools, or 100 $6 million schools... then they complain that we aren't spending enough on education. This is the normal operating status in California.

I rather like the idea of trading your nutters for some of our normals. We could plant them ALL in California, then start praying for The Big One, the San Adreas Fault earthquake that's supposed to drop California into the Pacific Ocean.

Or we could just sort of keep them there as a museum to study the oddities of liberal insanity.

Do you know what is really bugging the "normals" in the US to the point where the Sleeping Giant has awakened again? The simple fact that "progressives" are being exposed as neo-Feudalists, who want to draw all power to a centralized government authority where we serfs can all be controlled by our intellectual "betters". This neo-Feudalist attitude has been showing up in so many ways in the way Obama, Pelosi, and Reid speak down to us, and that simply is NOT the way to speak to a group of Americans. The more they try to explain how they want government to "help" us, the angrier the people get. Like the Aussie "normals" (not their nutters who surfaced recently), we are an extremely self-reliant lot, and dispise government interference. That is where the Obama Administration is seriously miscalculating.

We're starting to understand that Marx, Engles, etc basically sanded the patent number off of Medieval Feudalism, prettied it up with modernistic language, and sold it as a "new" idea, when it's basically the same OLD idea of turning whatever is valuable over to a centralized authority for redistribution. When people claim that this kind of idea is "progressive", all I can do is fall on my arse laughing. :lol:

A trend of calling socialistic ideas "neo-Feudalist" is starting to catch on here in the US. Maybe we can get our intellectual "betters" to stand down, or realize that they ARE talking about Feudalism, or at least be a little ashamed of themselves. They're already ashamed to call themselves "liberals"... we've accomplished that much. But they just swapped out for the word "progressive". "Progressive" has already been nailed as a subsitution for "socialist" by our radio talk shows. Calling it neo-Feudalism is the next step. Word is spreading fast.

Seizing Congress in November isn't going to completely solve our problems here, but the fact is that in the US, it is the Congress, not the President, who holds the nation's purse strings. We are looking forward to a lot of Obama's little ideas getting their funding cut... congressional candidates running on that point have been winning in polling in double-digit spreads. PDT_Armataz_01_34

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 Post subject: Re: Restoration
PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:27 pm 
"basically sanded the patent number off of Medieval Feudalism, prettied it up with modernistic language, and sold it as a 'new' idea".

Beautiful, thank you. When I grow up I want to turn a phrase as pretty as that.

Rosie – this will come to the UK soon:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/03/healt ... .html?_r=1

[ADDED] Rosie, here's another version of the NY Times article on the perils of "third hand" smoke. Whatever next? (Apart from "fourth hand" smoke.)

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/a-new ... ke/406615/


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Mamapyjamas.

I did see that about the school, crazy. I've also been following about Arizona.

I look forward to November. What I'd really like to see (going back to smokers again, can't help myself PDT_Armataz_01_22 ) is for all smokers to quit, now that would really upset Obamas plans for health reform and his other pet projects tobacco taxes subsidise. The same can be said for here.

It shows what the progressives and anti rabble have done to people's minds with their propaganda & lies, a New Yorker when asked how he felt about having to hide in corners to smoke said 'I want to remain anonymous because of the stigma attached to smoking'. This was a Vietnam veteran, I was shocked and saddened that a man who had fought for his country is treated like dung. The only stigma attached to smoking is the hate tax levied on tobacco.

But I am really glad to hear that Americans are fighting back, sadly it would need a rocket, a big one at that, up people's backside here to get them moving.

Don't forget to keep us up to date.


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MamaP, to what extent are the Republican hierarchy seen as sold out, like Cameron here?
Is Mama Grizzly seen as a mainstream Republican, or rather where the Republicans should be aiming to return to?
Hrrumph, hope that makes sense . PDT_Armataz_01_22
I'm trying to see equivalent characters on this side of the pond?

(Palin & Bolton for '12? Plausible or not?)

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rosie wrote:
If you are being pushed too far Mamapajamas why are Americans allowing people to be evicted, refused employment/medical treatment, banned from parks/beaches without a murmur, because they smoke? What goes on over there comes over here. Yet no one wants to know about his insidiousness because they don't like the smell. I want to see the fat pigs Stan Glanzt & John Banzhaff (lawyer) get their come uppance one day, the sooner the better as these two have been the main instigators of the anti-smoking shits, carrying out an agenda planned years ago by Godber & the WHO.

Image & Image

I would never have suspected *them*.

We may have the trappings and baubles of modernity here in the UK but we are largely Saxons being ruled by the Normans in Westminster and Whitehall. Their values are not ours and neither is their language. Having handed over vast gobs of our authority to the EU and beyond (most pathetically to NGOs, media tarts and pastey faced pressure groupies) they set about undermining the local decision making process in order to keep themselves in work.


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MamaP, to what extent are the Republican hierarchy seen as sold out, like Cameron here?
Is Mama Grizzly seen as a mainstream Republican, or rather where the Republicans should be aiming to return to?
Hrrumph, hope that makes sense . PDT_Armataz_01_22
I'm trying to see equivalent characters on this side of the pond?

(Palin & Bolton for '12? Plausible or not?)


This is a very strange year, Sandy. Mama Grizzly is seen as a Rock Star out here in "flyover country". She STILL draws bigger crowds than any other political figure in the country. The Republican heirarchy regard her as a major risk and an embarassment. I attribute this to both elitist snobbery and an inability to count. They must have flunked their maths in school. The more the MSM attack her, the more popular she gets in "flyover country".

On the other hand, the Republican heirarchy is seen as "go along to get alongs", like McCain. There is a contageous disease in Washington that seems to infect anyone who has been there too long. The general "flyover country" public is not amused by them, and they are pretty much on notice that if they put pressure on the new people we send to Congress to "get along in the interest of making progress with legislation", they are going to be in big BIG trouble, since the general view now is that NO legislation at all is better than compromised legislation. The simple fact is that we would rather vote for an Independent who supports our ideas than a Republican who "gets along". We are in a place where we do NOT want to "get along" with Democrats, we want to stop them. I have never, in my entire life, voted for something called a "bipartisan", and regard that as one of the biggest problems in the country. I vote for people who represent my views, not people who will compromise what they said they would support.

The people who have been winning in the various state primaries have been candidates who have been the most vocal about running against the Washington establishment... whether Democrat or Republican. Country club Republicans are viewed as a problem, and the Limousine liberals in the Democratic party are viewed as downright dangerous. Basically, the people winning the Congressional primaries are people who were locals who sounded off at TEA Party events, and drew a following of their own. Mind you, there is no such thing as "THE" TEA Party... it is simply grassroots groups of people who are Taxed Enough Already. We've already seen that Democrats never saw a tax they didn't love, so Republicans are tending to profit from this. And a lot of Republican RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) have been challenged in primaries and lost to new candidates.

Here in Florida, Cuban American Marco Rubio has taken the lead in the race for the available Senate seat for Florida. Gov. Charlie Crist was supposed to have been the Republican candidate, but Rubio shut him down so rapidly, Crist switched his party affiliation to Independent to avoid the Republican primary last week. For a while during the BP Spill thing, as the governor of Florida, Crist got a polling "bump" with free publicity by sounding off loudly and dramatically about the spill, but now that the Great Oil Spill Dragon has been slain and revealed to be a 4-inch lizard, he's losing that bump. Rubio is once again securely ahead. Rubio is not only liked, he is TRUSTED, primarily because Cuban Americans are famous in Florida for being virulently against anything that smacks of socialism (their parents and grandparents saw it first hand in Cuba). We expect him to be a very vociferous member of the Senate. PDT_Armataz_01_34

Palin and Bolton/2012? From your lips (keyboard?) to God's ears! PDT_Armataz_01_37

But probably not likely at this point. PDT_Armataz_01_10

Two people to watch out for are Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, and Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour.

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Clarence wrote:
"basically sanded the patent number off of Medieval Feudalism, prettied it up with modernistic language, and sold it as a 'new' idea".

Beautiful, thank you. When I grow up I want to turn a phrase as pretty as that.

Rosie – this will come to the UK soon:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/03/healt ... .html?_r=1


Thank you, Clarence. PDT_Armataz_01_24

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Rosie, here's another version of the NY Times article on the perils of "third hand" smoke. Whatever next? (Apart from "fourth hand" smoke.)

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/a-new ... ke/406615/


Thanks Clarence.

New extensive scientistific research into THS was undertaken last year - a telephone survey, yes a bona-fida scientific telephone survey was conducted, and it proved that people believed THS could give them cancer and other diseases, that it's harmful to children crawling/playing on floors. As they've run out of orifices & body parts & pets to frighten the useless public about the dangers of smoking/SHS and their funding is being cut back in favour of fatties, they had to find new evidence, and thirdhand-smoke is it. And think about it, if THS sticks to clothes etc., and kills non-smokers it effectively bans smokers from being in contact with the public or their own children. No employment.

Once THS is proved beyond doubt, which it will be, by the respected scientific/research/medical mafia, leper like colonies will be set up and smokers that refuse to conform and quit will be incarcerated, only allowed access to the outside world through video links. Mind you if they agree to conform with enforced NRT treatment and quit they'll have to be quarantined for 6 months, at least, to cleanse them of THS. They'll be rated that dangerous NASA will be called on for advice. Unfortunately many will actually buy in to the THS crap.


As you can see below the rush for funding has already started.

The Tobacco-Related Disease Research Program (TRDRP) announces a Request for Proposals (RFP)
to undertake studies on Thirdhand Smoke and Cigarette Butt Waste, under a new initiative.

Approximately $3.75 million is expected to be available for this RFP.


The deadline for submission of all application materials
Monday, August 16, 2010 at 2:00 pm PST


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:56 am 
Out of interest, Rosie, it wasn't you who complained to the Advertising Standards Authority about a 2006 Cancer Research ad that stated "The fact is, secondhand smoke kills", was it? The ASA wouldn't put me in touch with the other complainant. If it's any use to you, PM me for my complaint to them (written before Scared To Death had been published but not a bad effort).


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