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 Post subject: The hypocritical environmentalists / A scam on hold ...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:18 am 
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The hypocritical environmentalists

The slime who pretend to be environmentalists, pouring out their venom at anyone who has the temerity to disagree with them, might garner a little credibility of they ever expressed some concern about the great CFC scam.

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A scam on hold

The UN's CDM Executive Body is to review a request from a Chinese plant destroying HCF-23 to generate carbon credits. This follows on from its action in blocking four similar requests "in a bid to ensure that the plants do not deliberately boost their greenhouse gas emissions" – exactly the scam we discussed in December 2009 and again last June.

The Chinese plants are requesting millions of Certified Emissions Reduction Units (CERs) for destroying HCF-23, a potent greenhouse gas that is a by-product of manufacturing the refrigerant gas HCF-22. The credits are generated under the Clean Development Mechanism (CDM), which "allows" industrialised countries to offset a part of their emissions by funding reductions in developing countries.

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 Post subject: Re: A scam on hold – and another one behind
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:35 am 
The whole system was set up by the international banks as a scam for their benefit. Check who owns these banks and btw check who own Reuters, Associated Press and the mainstream media (News Corp. CNN, CBS etc). It's little wonder that no 'journalist' would dare investigate these scams properly, even when one of the players (Soros) admits the scam.


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New post ... in the Booker column

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... lists.html

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:35 am 
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The tree-hugging mob in the Warmista ranks may well be tearing the hair out of its beards but those who are behind them & finance their coal-fired plant sit-ins & that equally slimy scum among the supporting judiciary will not let this 'blip' deter them...and will play it down as a small aberration by a few opportunistic Asians.
THe AGW battle is far from won...All the painstaking research & the following exposés are, as I predicted months ago, simply ignored. There is far, far too much money at stake. This new descent into feculence by the bottom-feeders will be brushed aside by the great & the good....and go mainly unreported in the MSM. The Great British Public will raise not a whimper of protest while their elected representatives continue to throw taxpayers' money, after the statutory rake-off, at the biggest piss-take ever.
Don't kid yourselves that retribution will eventually come. It won't; simply because we've lost the taste for it...along with our freedom.

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 Post subject: Re: The hypocritical environmentalists / A scam on hold ...
PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:18 am 
We have an apparent, insurmountable problem - what to do.

If one reads the increasing number of blogs from those who are 'up to here' with government, whether it be for local issues and more often national as well as international - scams included, it becomes clear that the entire world is under the thumb of higher echelons - an illuminati - that are in ultimate control of world policies bent on total control and a cull of the human race through gradual, persistent, and ongoing acts from subversive activities to outright warfare to further their disreputable ends. Whilst the masses at large become more aware of these elements, the question always arises - what can we, as an increasingly aware population - do about changing, removing, ending such oligarchic regimes and practices? The relative few in total control are to all intents and purposes - untouchable, unknown, and uncaring. They are aware of the discontent, and likely encouraging the accelerating of their regimes because of it, but concerned for their own welfare? I doubt it, for we are the dust of the Earth, and they the Colossus beyond reach.

Awareness is light a light bulb. It may 'come on' with research and knowledge and a little intelligence, but it still remains under the control of the source of power. Removing the power supply puts us back into the 'dark ages' and an era that no current or previous generations are even willing to contemplate let alone realise - no communication, no transportation, no knowledge other than; 'it's raining, it isn't raining, I am too cold, I am too hot, I can eat this, but not that'. The masses have been fed that which they crave and have become subservient to. In a nutshell, we are our own jailers. The walls are seen as our defence, not as our prison. We have become comfortable in this zone and made to feel it is the norm, anything beyond is just too terrible to contemplate - riots and street violence are condemned and even peaceful demonstration controlled and regulated - impotence gauranteed. Refusing to pay taxes results in loss of ownership, family divided, homeless, outcast, destitution, death. Barrels of gunpowder and RPG's - you must be joking, similarly writing to your MP - platitudes, smiles, and nothing. The illuminati know this, and are also quite comfortable in that knowledge. It's all part of the plan that we helped draw up.

Will we cut our own throats to save ourselves? Or carry on groaning at our lot, seeking small pleasures in the dark, and like the dog on the porch - carry on howling because it's too much effort to get off the nail.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:08 am 
I think that there is a tier of worldwide government who sincerely believe that they have a right to do as they wish. I do also believe that some of them are doing what they do with misguided intentions.

There is a school of thought out there that believes that the western industrialized countries are too well off and that their wealth should be redistributed.

Whether it is AGW or the EU, as long as it fits their fluffy, hands-across-the-water mentality they will go along with it. These well-intentioned people know what is going on, they are just prepared to put up with it.

I have e-mailed Monbiot on this aspect of his campaign – all you get back is a patronising circular.


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I think that there is a tier of worldwide government who sincerely believe that they have a right to do as they wish.


Worldwide government implies an organization and some sort of common ethos. What we see is agglomerations of power/wealth that act in their own interests, consuming those smaller and keeping a wary eye on those larger, our concepts of morality play no part.
That someone benefits from any war, disaster or whatever is self-evident but it does not follow that because they benefitted they must have caused it.

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A small note about the history of CFC scam and the Montreal protocol. Dupont developed a new line of flourinated hydrocarbons that had no place on the market because freons had better thermodynamic properties. It hold a patent on their manufacture. So it prompted a campaign which resulted in Montreal Protocol and banning of freons. Currently each deodorant balloon is a small incendiary bomb as butane is used as a propellent. It is much more dangerous. It was never proved that CFC actually lead to ozone depletion in real world conditions. CFC are heavy gases their migration to stratosphere is highly unlikely. Nevertheless the environmentalists backed by Dupont money had their way.

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Hmm, didn't realize that. And you're right it's criminal to use butane when less flammable is available.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:40 pm 
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I agree with your sentiment that Monbiot is insincere in his advocacy of green issues. He cherry picks issues and runs away from hard questions, they do not get rid of bad apples.

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