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 Post subject: Death by indifference
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:41 pm 
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Via GWPF a sombre tale that must chill the blood of any committed warmist. The publicly funded NDR German television news show Panorama has had a look at the state of climate science and politics today in Germany. It finds that the topic has gone way beyond its shelf-life. It is used up and no longer draws a bit of interest from the public.

View full article here

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 Post subject: Re: Death by indifference
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:21 pm 
Well that's what happens when the cry "wolf!" goes up so often.

We've had BSE (as you point out), SARS, H1N1 et al. Yet the ones that have caused the most damage are things like MRSA which are cultivated in our own hospitals and given out at no cost to the patient except maybe his/her life.

I've never met anyone in actual life who went for the AGW scam. In fact most people of my aquaintance didn't believe it the very first time it was mooted and these are not people who researched for evidence, they just didn't get onboard.

Trouble is, if there is to be a very real threat to our health/lives who's gonna listen now?

Ultimately this is what happens when those with a vested interest in promoting a scam get the ear of those charged with making decisions on our behalf.

Sadly I don't see it ending anytime soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Death by indifference
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:45 pm 
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Holl wrote:
Well that's what happens when the cry "wolf!" goes up so often.

We've had BSE (as you point out), SARS, H1N1 et al. Yet the ones that have caused the most damage are things like MRSA which are cultivated in our own hospitals and given out at no cost to the patient except maybe his/her life.

I've never met anyone in actual life who went for the AGW scam. In fact most people of my aquaintance didn't believe it the very first time it was mooted and these are not people who researched for evidence, they just didn't get onboard.

Trouble is, if there is to be a very real threat to our health/lives who's gonna listen now?

Ultimately this is what happens when those with a vested interest in promoting a scam get the ear of those charged with making decisions on our behalf.

Sadly I don't see it ending anytime soon.


MRSA is what happens when the doctors are in change of the medical industry ... BSE is what happens when doctors are in change of the food industry.

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 Post subject: Re: Death by indifference
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:32 pm 
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Booker on youtube, not sure if it's already been posted, apologies if it has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sdbe7oE ... r_embedded


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 Post subject: Re: Death by indifference
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:55 pm 
a story from the guardian via wuwt;

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/16/b ... ent-458582

Economy First: Britain Puts Decarbonisation On Hold

Allegra Stratton, The Guardian, 16 August 2010

The coalition is watering down a commitment to tough new environmental emissions standards, raising the possibility of dirty coal-fired power stations such as Kingsnorth going ahead.

Green groups are aghast that a flagship policy called for in opposition by both Lib Dems and Tories, and which they last year tried to force on the Labour government, will now not be implemented in the coalition’s first energy bill to be published this year.


Their criticism of the government’s commitment to green issues follows news last week that nature reserves could be sold off as countryside protection measures also bear the brunt of budget cuts in the Department for Environment.

Introducing a so-called “environmental performance standard” (EPS) for power companies would have restricted greenhouse gas emissions from coal and gas plants and encouraged companies wishing to build to use more efficient technology.

The introduction of an EPS was personally championed by David Cameron, George Osborne and Nick Clegg when in opposition; their opposition to Kingsnorth became something of a cause célèbre – and even features in the coalition agreement – but was opposed by energy companies and Tory backbenchers.

The chief executive at one coal-plant operating company warned that the UK’s renewable energy technology – which would be used to help new plants meet the target – was too undeveloped to make the EPS feasible.

Now government sources confirm they will not be bringing forward legislation in the autumn and will instead spend the summer working on “the larger picture”. They will open a consultation on the idea in the autumn with the results being presented to parliament as a white paper in the new year.

Green campaigners believe this is noncommittal for a policy both parts of the coalition said could be implemented immediately when in opposition.

They believe a delay in the introduction of the standard until next year – with a few years for the legislation to pass through the house and for it to be set up – raises the possibility of new coal-fire power stations slipping through the system.

Greenpeace energy campaigner, Joss Garman, said: “David Cameron made the introduction of new rules to stop the most polluting power stations one of his flagship green policies, and Nick Clegg helped ensure it was a key part of the coalition agreement.

“Both Lib Dem and Conservative MPs voted for the introduction of such a measure just a few months ago, and if they U-turn on this and fail to put this measure into their new energy law, how can they claim to be the greenest government ever?”

The energy company Peel Power has already come forward with a proposal in Scotland to build a largely unabated coal plant.

The government’s advisers, the Committee on Climate Change, said if the UK is to meet its climate targets it needs to decarbonise the whole power sector by 2030.

If the EPS is abandoned it would almost certainly reopen the debate about what the industry needs to change and encourage utilities to push forward with their original plans for a whole new fleet of dirty coal stations in the UK (the first to be built here for 30 years).

The consequences would be that the battle of Kingsnorth could be refought


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 Post subject: Re: Death by indifference
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:13 pm 
We'll have to wait decades for the AGW mania to fully work its way out of our public institutions.

Our civil service, quangos, town halls and universities are still full of employees full of the trendy rubbish that was in fashion when they were learning their trades.

The annoying thing is that by the time the warmists have all been pensioned off there'll be another loony idea to follow it, just as AGW itself followed on from idiocies like admiration for the Soviet bloc and 'progressive' educational theories.


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 Post subject: Re: Death by indifference
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:36 pm 

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But...

Oyster Herpes deaths linked to global warming.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/oyste ... rming.html


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 Post subject: Re: Death by indifference
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:19 pm 
I happen to have seen this part of the programme. The presenter was very sorrowful that Angela Merkel had "broken her word" on spending mega-Euros on combatting AGW. They showed an amusing graph of a cross-section of worthy publications ( Spiegel, Suddeutsche Zeitung etc ) and noted the sudden drop in stories over the last year or so. It ended up by interviewing a load of Teutonic chavs on holiday, swilling beer, who declared that they didn't really care about AGW cos they didn't understand it.

All-in-all a depressingly familiar one-sided report from German state media - it could have been the BBC talking.


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 Post subject: Re: Death by indifference
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:14 pm 
John, here's the podcast so the rest of us can all enjoy the schadenfreude in the original German too. Tee hee. Grosse funheitliche wunderbar it is too.

http://media.ndr.de/download/podcasts/p ... 1.h264.mp4


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:13 am 
As if by majick... http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162- ... 01465.html

Seems the Indians are muttering about vested interests. Who dat den?

It's the wolf!, it's the wolf!


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