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 Post subject: The future of Iran
PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:02 am 
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Booker in his column addresses the issue of the PMOI and the continued attempts of Tehran to keep it branded as a terrorist organisation. What is puzzling though is that this organisation, which is able to attract huge expressions of support from free Iranians and can organise major demonstrations in Paris, seems unable to attract even the interest, much less the support of the western media.


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 Post subject: Re: The future of Iran
PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:31 am 
The problem in Iran and the worlds related Iranian problems stems from the 2nd world war.
After the second world war education of children was a leftist /ignoramus hit and miss kaleidoscope of miss information.
The results show today, a voting population that cannot equate with reality, a teenage culture that is more interested in where to put the next tattoo or piercing than work or education, a political class that mirrors the above, but also has the distinct malaise of profound ignorance and not having the ability of a dimwit ( i.e a MSM journalist.)
If the retarded kleptomaniacs ( cut and paste culture) who inform the masses had any mathematical education the could Google ' Muslims / terrorists / and ponder why it shows an average of 300,000 yes three hundred thousand results 7 days a week 550 days a year.

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 Post subject: The future of Iran
PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:34 am 

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Good to see an Iran thread again. And just when John Bolton is claiming that if there's no attack on the Bushehr nuclear facility by this Saturday 21/8/2010, when the Russians are due to load it with nuclear rods, then it may be too late for one because of the danger to people in nearby countries from airborne radiation after that. See:
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/John--B ... ode=A80B-1

Additionally, & unfortunately Iran has been storing weapons in Syria for Hezbollah, & probably for the Lebanese army too, in advance of any clash with Israel etc over the Bushehr reactor & other similar facilities in Iran. Coincidently the place they are stored at is in northern Syria outside Masyaf - in the same tunnels extending into the neighbouring hillsides from the same 5 compounds where, in all probability, Saddam stored his chemical & biological weapons prior to the 2003 Iraq war. Ie the same WMD that the US & no one else could find when hunting all over Iraq after that war. What goes round, comes round - as they say. See:
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htart/20100602.aspx

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 Post subject: Re: The future of Iran
PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:39 pm 
This quote from Watchet's first link:

'According to Russian officials, Iran has promised in writing to send all spent fuel rods from Bushehr back to Russia for reprocessing, to ensure they cannot be used for nuclear weapons.'

Oh, that's alright, then. Phew.


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 Post subject: Re: The future of Iran
PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:36 pm 

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Isreal in a flap over this, also Russia seems to have closed a route for the IDFAF, interesting


Sudden word from Moscow and Tehran on Aug. 11 that Russia will activate Iran's first nuclear power reactor on Aug. 21 by loading the fuel has caused a major flap in Israel in view of its military aspects.DEBKA reports: Only last week, Russian leaders assured Washington that it would not go on line this year.

Former Bush adviser John Bolton commented that once the rods are in, Israel can no longer attack this reactor because of spreading radiation.
http://www.debka.com/

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 Post subject: Re: The future of Iran
PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:01 pm 
Thank you Watchet. I always thought it strange that the weapons weren't there; felt sure they'd buried them a the end of some tunnel somewhere! So no we know where they are, we have to withdraw anyway.... wonderful.


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 Post subject: Re: The future of Iran
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:04 am 
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Something I have noticed a few times is that when something about the EU actually does break into the news, the Booker column focuses on forced adoption, global warming or Iran.


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 Post subject: Re: The future of Iran
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:31 am 
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Stuart wrote:
Something I have noticed a few times is that when something about the EU actually does break into the news, the Booker column focuses on forced adoption, global warming or Iran.


Same problem this blog has ... bored witless by the EU.

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 Post subject: The future of Iran
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More thoughts on the Masyaf storage facility in northern Syria: if Strategy Page's diagnosis is correct, this is quite a gamble by Syria. Mainly that no one would dare to attack the site for fear of setting off, either deliberately or accidentally (while attacking Iran's stored weapons for Hizbullah), Saddam's missing chemical & biological weapons. Think of the poison gas cloud that could spread over Syria, Lebanon, Turkey - & even Israel & Jordan, & perhaps further! Clever too of Iran to place their stored weapons for Hizbullah there, knowing that the proximity of Saddam's WMDs would make an air attack too risky to try - & a land attack against it would presumably be near impossible for Israel (though not for the US). Though still, it's surprising Syria wants to take such a risk against itself, unless they have by now secretly moved the WMDs elsewhere - or made them safe (though would they know how to, I wonder). Sealing the WMDs up behind thick brick & earth walls would be no guarantee of an accidental internal explosion not occurring - & then releasing a poison gas cloud etc. Maybe they've discretely moved them elsewhere by now, or dumped some/them at sea at night etc.

As far as John Bolton's call for an attack on Iran's Bushehr nuclear facility before the Russian rods are inserted & activated this Saturday (perhaps) is concerned, hopefully diplomacy will persuade the Russians to hold off once again - as they have done now for more than 10 years. But if the Russians are not bluffing this time, there's not much time left - & with B Hussein Obama on the watch only a small chance of appropriate action being taken to deter them by this weekend. Hillary might, might, might be more effective....perhaps. If I was Israel, assuming that what John Bolton says is correct, I'd be pretty bothered about it too!

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 Post subject: Re: The future of Iran
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:13 pm 

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Bolton is flying a kite. Fuel grade Uranium will kill you chemically long before radiation is a factor.
Ask yourself, from an Israeli point of view, which is better a radioactive danger zone in Iran, or fallout over Tel-Aviv?

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 Post subject: Re: The future of Iran
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SandyRham wrote:
Fuel grade Uranium will kill you chemically long before radiation is a factor.

On day 1, with some assumptions about the fuel, OK. But once it's been operation for a while, the fission products will build up.


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 Post subject: Re: The future of Iran
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the fission products will build up.


Against a glowing Tel-Aviv the Israelis will care how much??

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 Post subject: Re: The future of Iran
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SandyRham wrote:
Against a glowing Tel-Aviv the Israelis will care how much??

Spent fuel is high level waste. Once it's been running for months, and has some % fuel burn, bombing that disperses material from the core is a major nuclear incident. How much the Israelis care is up to them. But Bolton is right, you're in a different ball game to bombing a non-active site.


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