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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:11 am 
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"Ever more risibly desperate become the efforts of the believers in global warming to hold the line for their religion, after the battering it was given last winter by all those scandals surrounding the UN's IPCC." So writes Booker in his column which, to some, may seem curiously flat when it comes to naming names.

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 Post subject: Re: Booker
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:25 am 
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The head of the Russian branch of WWF, the environmental pressure group, was inevitably quick to cite this as evidence of climate change, claiming that in future "such climate abnormalities will only become more frequent". He didn't explain what might have caused the similar hot weather 130 years ago.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:53 am 
Nice to see Bishop Hill getting a shout out too


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:02 am 
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Booker's timing is good. When you read the recent posts on Watts one feels that the end game is now in full swing; all that solid work of mapping every surface station in the US, pulling away at the carfully constructed knots of convoluted data manipulation and now the news of obvious cooling of both the Antarctic and Arctic in recent years are combining to provide a very strong foundation from which to attack the alarmism and corruption in the AGW camp. The whitewashes are pyric victories for an already enfeebled enemy, they fail to dent the solid work that has all been put in the public domain by blogs like Watts, Bishops Hill and EURef.

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 Post subject: Re: Booker
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:10 am 
We've been saying that the end game is near for a while now. I am beginning to wonder if it is a perpetual pest-control problem that we have, like Possums and rabbits here in NZ.


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 Post subject: Re: Booker
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andyscrase2 wrote:
I am beginning to wonder if it is a perpetual pest-control problem that we have ...


Yes, definitely. Don't forget, this has never really been about the planet: it is just another battle in the war between the idle swine who want to use the power of the state to give themselves an easy life, and the poor bloody taxpayers who have to pay for them.

The whole greeny thing has been a stunningly successful campaign in this war, largely due to the number of different constituencies it has been able to rope in. We need to learn lessons from this, because I don't think we are anywhere near the end of this campaign. For example, see today :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy ... bines.html


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From the above link :
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Mr Huhne, ... said onshore wind turbines were "incredibly competitive" in producing electricity


Who is briefing this clown ?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:46 am 
The AGW scam is a technology for social control. If indeed it really is dead in the water, what we need to be looking for is the next "global problem requiring global solutions." The obvious one, which has has been bubbling under all the time, is the "Global War on Terror." We can even recycle most of the acronym. War nonsense is ramping up as I type. Somehow I think Richard will be a bit less critical about it...


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The AGW scam is a technology for social control. If indeed it really is dead in the water, what we need to be looking for is the next "global problem requiring global solutions."


In your opinion who is responsible for producing these quests?

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There is a big story developing in the green world about the carbon trading scam. It is well laid out in a documment obtained by smalldeadanimals.com 10 ways to game the carbon markets http://www.foe.org/sites/default/files/ ... ts_Web.pdf

Watts reports how some of the greens are hacking and taking down other green sites that promote carbon credits http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/24/e ... more-22493. Civil war inside the green movement!

Only last week on Monbiot's blog in the comments thread I was being attacked by the followers of Monbiot for "Character assasination" of Pachauri, then Richard was accused of being a racist for attacking Pachauri. So where do they stand? Do they support Pachauri who is their chairman of the IPCC or do they disown him becaue he is part owner of the Chicago and Indian carbon credit exchanges?

This is Richard's albatross for the green movement, are we going to help him hang it round their necks? Are their links showing TERI's ownership of the cc exchanges? If we have them can we all fan out and drop the link onto every green website and stoke their civil war? The greens need to be made to face the corruption at the core of their ideology and made to choose; do they accept the albatross around their necks or do they cleanse their own side?

I notice that TERI-Europe, Pachauri's private charity through which funds mysteriously are paid and disappear without trace, have still not filed corrected accounts.

Pachauri is a big story again. It is Richard who investigated Pachauri's financial involvement with making money out of the green scams the IPCC promote. The green monster is now prostrate before him, it neck exposed waiting for the knife, it should be us who apply the knife by dropping Richard's information into every nook and cranny of the green world.

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 Post subject: Re: Booker
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:24 pm 
'Mr Huhne, ... said onshore wind turbines were "incredibly competitive" in producing electricity '

Could be he was using incredible in the sense of unbelievable!


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 Post subject: Re: Booker
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:32 pm 
Meanwhile, Devil's Kitchen has some shockingly revealing quotes about the true aims of the greenie's leaders, e.g. how about these two:

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?"—Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

"We've got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy."—Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:14 pm 
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Ian E wrote:
Meanwhile, Devil's Kitchen has some shockingly revealing quotes about the true aims of the greenie's leaders, e.g. how about these two:

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?"—Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

"We've got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy."—Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation.


Not exactly new ... which means they are not exactly "revelations" as such - just the DK has suddenly noticed what they've being saying quite openly for decades. And that is the point ... all too often I've railed about the ****wits who go chasing off after dark and sinister secret conspiracies, when they are all there, in plain sight. Read the manifesto of the Green Party ... IN PRINT ... this is a party which has as its core, fundamental objective an economic DEPRESSION, the like of which the modern world has never experienced. And there are people ... hundreds of thousands of them, who vote for these morons!!!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Booker
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:35 pm 
This is all very well Richard. However, that doesn't explain why, after Labour having been booted out, the Cleggerons continue to whole-heartedly embrace the Green nonsense. I say again, it's not about AGW - or even the Green Movement - it's a technology of social control. As to who sets the agenda, it's the class of people who go to the Bilderberg Meetings... sigh, I fondly remember the days when it was only us Conspiracy Theorists who knew there was such a thing as Bilderberg... now Bilderberg actually issues press releases...


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therewaslight wrote:
Johnny wrote:
The AGW scam is a technology for social control. If indeed it really is dead in the water, what we need to be looking for is the next "global problem requiring global solutions."


In your opinion who is responsible for producing these quests?


There's been a movement for World Government, essentially socialist in nature, since the 19th century. It's one of those concepts which seems to make sense - until you look at it and attempt to reconcile it with human nature. It's the Star Trek view of politics; politics on Earth was a done deal and there was a World Government, the workings of which could be glossed over; everyone was happy and no one was sad, and so the script writers could move on to the more interesting questions of galactic politics. Even earlier there was the notion of The Noble Savage and a genteel view of poverty as a romantic abstract. There's a trend toward globalisation which can't be stopped but could be steered toward their view of globalisation.

Politicians rather like the idea of a nebulous threat to focus their electorates on something harmless (to them). In the UK, we've seen the emergence of a political class, that is politicians of the main parties have far more in common with themselves than with the electorate, and many have never known any career outside politics.

Bureaucracies naturally warm to the idea of anything which gives them more to administer and extend their power and scope. Politicians in turn find it very easy to allow bureaucracies to grow and almost impossible to cut them back.

Evil bankers are rubbing their hands together at the prospect of trading nothing for vast profit.

It's not so much a plot so much as natural trends of thought from diverse groups becoming aligned through an agenda which suits them.


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