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 Post subject: Perverse consequences
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:09 am 
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How to get rich was our subject for discussion last December as we reported how the CFC scam, mainly in China and India, was making entrepreneurs obscenely rich out of selling carbon credits. Now, six months later, Le Monde has picked up exactly the same story (translation here), complaining that CFCs have become the main source of CDMs.

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 Post subject: Re: Perverse consequences
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:42 am 
AL GORE IS A SEXUAL PREDATOR


WTF?????


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:25 am 
A few months ago, I saw David 'de' Rothschild (one of the young ones) advocating the carbon trading scheme and I knew straight-away that all was not what it would seem. So I decided that I would wait until EURef put more info on the scam which would tie in the most malignant money-grabbers in history with the most idiotic and publicly-debunked theory in history.


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 Post subject: Re: Perverse consequences
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:46 am 
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Stage 1 promote lies, twist data and create pseudoscience to make scare stories
Stage 2 make money from the scare stories
Stage 3 your scare story is discredited

Well done Le Monde, this is solid stage 2, I hope this story gets legs in this country and around the world.

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 Post subject: Re: Perverse consequences
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:31 am 
"THE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT IS TO PAY GOVERNMENT WORKERS AND THEIR ALLIES; which means the real purpose of government is to collect the money to pay government workers and their allies" Pournelle

Basically this gives 2 separate lots of UN & national government workers gainful employment & rewards lots of friends. There is no necessity for anybody at the UN, or indeed any journalist on a newspaper subsidised by the state, like George Monbiot, to believe a single word of the global warming scam


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 Post subject: Re: Perverse consequences
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:39 am 
In Catch 22 Major Major's father, a farmer, was paid a government subsidy not to grow alfalfa. He used the subsidy to buy more land on which he didn't grow alfalfa and grew richer. As it appears that both state planning and the free market are both impractical ideals, wouldn't it be better to try the third way of muddling along and adapting to changing circumstances?


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 Post subject: Re: Perverse consequences
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:17 pm 
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GallimaufryandChips wrote:
In Catch 22 Major Major's father, a farmer, was paid a government subsidy not to grow alfalfa. He used the subsidy to buy more land on which he didn't grow alfalfa and grew richer. As it appears that both state planning and the free market are both impractical ideals, wouldn't it be better to try the third way of muddling along and adapting to changing circumstances?


This is the living embodiment of the principle. You have the Chinese building factories to produce unusable HCF 22 so that they can also produce HCF 23 as a by-product which they can then burn and claim carbon credits worth 70 times the cost of production and disposal. As for the "unusable" HCF 22, this is sold illegally and enters the black market, some of it finding its way into India, where the prices are higher - thus fuelling the growth of organised crime. What a wonderful outcome.

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