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 Post subject: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:43 pm 
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Dellers has produced a stonking piece on climate change in general, followed by one on the Royal Society. In that second piece, he tells us that he recently had the great pleasure of dinner with Bob Carter who in turn told him that when he goes on speaking tours, there's only one question he ever gets asked to which he is unable to provide a satisfactory answer.

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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 11:40 pm 
Cnut Huhne?

Oh, Thaaat "Cnut".
Did the recent Act repeal Cnut's law of tides, oceans and climate? I think not; Cnut's ruling still stands.


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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 12:50 am 
Our best bet is to form a list, "warmist" politicians, both local and national, scientists and the media, then work on making them all unemloyed and unemployable, never again to be in a position of power, especially no at the taxpayers expense. They are all either clinically insane or unreformably corrupt and therefore dismissal with no perks or pension. That should do it, they are all unfit to serve, bastards.


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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:15 am 
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Harrabin seems to have begun to see the light!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_ ... 178454.stm

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If the great science academies can't find ways of including the best experts from the blogosphere in their deliberations they may find themselves badly left behind
Society to review climate message

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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:09 am 
"...following which the politicians will slough away and find something else to obsess about?"

Already happening: the new "global warming " is biodiversity.


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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:41 am 
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Laroquois wrote:
"...following which the politicians will slough away and find something else to obsess about?"

Already happening: the new "global warming " is biodiversity.


I have a theory that its Agenda 21 ... they pick whatever aspect of that agenda is most likely to run. When it flags, they pick something else from the bag and run with that. The headlines thus change, but the underlying agenda stays the same.

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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:51 am 
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I have a theory that its Agenda 21 ... they pick whatever aspect of that agenda is most likely to run. When it flags, they pick something else from the bag and run with that. The headlines thus change, but the underlying agenda stays the same.

It is purely political. The truth has nothing to do with it - it's all about the agenda.

The only hope, IMHO, is to educate enough of the general population to be able to think for themselves so they can distinguish propaganda from reality. Given the state of the typical person, however, that's a pretty slim hope.


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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:54 am 
Its all here......... http://www.amazon.co.uk/Liberal-Fascism ... 0385511841


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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 12:30 pm 

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Julian Williams wrote:
Harrabin seems to have begun to see the light!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_ ... 178454.stm

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If the great science academies can't find ways of including the best experts from the blogosphere in their deliberations they may find themselves badly left behind
Society to review climate message

The snipes continue in Harrabin land though:

"After years of accusing the fossil fuel lobby of using anti-scientific arguments to undermine climate policy, scientists are now themselves accused of being un-scientific." - Anyone who challenges the orthodoxy is in the fossil fuel lobby.

"Surveys show that many people don't believe the truths of scientific orthodoxy anymore and prefer to seek their "facts" in the blogosphere where it's easier to get insouciant endorsement of high-consumption western lifestyles." High consumption like jetting about the globe Roger? Mere "facts" compared to facts Government science bodies spew out? What he is describing is confirmation bias - why isn't he applying it to the sainted taxpayer funded "scientists" and "experts"?

"The Royal Society is paying a price for the era in which lobbyists were doing their utmost to unpick climate policies." Again Roger seems to insist that anyone who speaks counter to the accepted mantra must be a lobbyist for some higher power.

"It was widely acknowledged that climate sceptics wanted to continue the debate in order to delay action to curb emissions." - Big Oil again. Does it ever occur to him that sceptics might just think the science is wrong?

"There will be some who welcome a demolition of the bastions of authority. But for governments and many citizens, the world will be much poorer if they do not know who they can trust." Trust is more important than factual correctness.


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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:45 pm 
The climate scientists are a symptom of the problem which is that "the practical purpose of politics is to keep the populace afraid & eager to be led to safety by threatening them with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of the imaginary" (Mencken). Catastrophic warming is merely the latest government sponsored eco scare story. We have had pollution, peak oil (repeatedly since 1850s) everything else running out, extinction of most species, extinction of all sea life, mass starvation, global cooling, China syndrome, LNT radioactivity damage, acid rain, Y2K all predicted to have caused devastation by now & all fraudulent. Check the career of Paul Ehrlich for something close to a complete range & for how lucrative being always wrong in the cause of government can be.

If we just disprove the warming scare the parasites will be back with a new fraud shortly. We must use the climate fraud as a stick to beat government parasites with until science funding is completely independent of political & governmental control.


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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:14 pm 
Quote: All we can hope for it that, if global warming played a part in the extinction of the mammoths,

No, no. Its the other way round - The extinction of mammoths supposedly led to re-glaciation of the planet.


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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:26 pm 
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Quote: All we can hope for it that, if global warming played a part in the extinction of the mammoths,

No, no. Its the other way round - The extinction of mammoths supposedly led to re-glaciation of the planet.



Arghhh ... yes, I knew that ... I dunno why I wrote what I did ... too focused on the extinction of Huhne, I fear.

I'll play around with the post text and get it right.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:56 pm 
With regard to the supposed infallible scientific authority of the "Royal Society", you may want to double-check this but I do believe that the Royal Society was a big promoter of "eugenics" theory in the early part of the 20th Century. And look to where that led us in the 1930s and 1940s.


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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:06 pm 
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Danny Lemieux wrote:
With regard to the supposed infallible scientific authority of the "Royal Society", you may want to double-check this but I do believe that the Royal Society was a big promoter of "eugenics" theory in the early part of the 20th Century. And look to where that led us in the 1930s and 1940s.


Slightly more complex than that, but RS members were certainly enthusiastic.

http://www.galtoninstitute.org.uk/Newsl ... genics.htm

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 Post subject: Re: The woolly world of Huhne
PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:30 pm 
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"It was widely acknowledged that climate sceptics wanted to continue the debate in order to delay action to curb emissions." - Big Oil again. Does it ever occur to him that sceptics might just think the science is wrong?


No it doesn't occur to him; cannot. The science is correct, spot on and proved with super-duper-computer models and all his dinner party guests agree. No, the faith is being under-mined by an evil satan, the oil companies.


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