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 Post subject: Double standards
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:23 pm 
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Professor John Beddington, still the government's chief scientific adviser - despite the change of government - is back in the news. He has, we are told, "hit out" at climate sceptics who attack global warming science on spurious grounds. That, at least, is the "take" from The Guardian, which has the statements - from the great man's first interview since the election - framed as a "veiled attack" on the former Tory chancellor and arch climate sceptic Nigel Lawson.

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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:36 am 

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The man is a pig-ignorant charlatan. Nobody capable of rational thought could consider 'warming' of 1.5 F over a century at all significant when each day varies by more than 15 F between night and noon.

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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:52 am 
OK So let's get this straight. This guy is paid by Big Government to produce the answers Big Government wants. And he does! Amazing! This guy is obviously the smartest scientist on the planet. What government would be fool enough to not employ him?

I employ wunderful wimin occasionally, but I don't expect them to love me. Is this an analogy or just a rhetorical thrust? Mmmm...thrusting...


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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:30 am 
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To support his argument, he [Beddington] then highlights the spurious argument that because the UK winter had been so cold, climate change science must be wrong. There was a difference between weather and climate, he says.

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You were saying....?


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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:34 am 
Kill him.


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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 8:17 am 
I commented elsewhere that Prescott must now be the biggest hpocrite in the Universe. On mature deliberation, I have to concede that he has some pretty stiff opposition! As a scientist mself (retired), I have seen the advance these 'politician'-scientists through the years, but the number of them and their biddability has risen alarmingly over the last two decades.


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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 8:36 am 

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This is good news, though.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geral ... l-warming/

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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 9:45 am 
Wiki quote: Beddington is a specialist in the economics and biology of sustainable management of renewable resources, and has previously advised UK ministers on scientific and environmental issues.

The moment I read 'sustainable', trivial science or fraud comes to mind. So we have a government ( Big money, bigger then All Big Oil combined) paid scientist, telling his paymasters what they want to hear, so they can tax us to penury. Of course ot goes without saying that the elite political class will make sure, very very sure, that they are well insulated ( literally as well) from the economic freeze.

Beddington is a specialist in the economics and biology of sustainable management of renewable resources. Fine, he has to earn a living somehow. But where does he keep his scientific credentials, as in Physics?


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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 9:53 am 
From the DT link provided by Charlie

Is carbon capture the new Philosopher’s Stone?

Of course it is. It is the means by which Carbon is converted to pure gold.


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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:28 pm 

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When we have a succession of cold winters and cool wet summers, it's weather, but when we have a hot summer or two, it's climate change brought about by CO2.


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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:03 pm 
I suspect he understands perfectly well that his criticism is two-faced. While one should err on the side of giving people the benefit of the doubt about their honesty, years of actions which are statistically incompatible with honest stupidity (ie always making "stupid" errors in only 1 direction) must change the default asumption.

In any case we have had 2 years of particularly cool temperature & no "significant" rise over 15 years & that is statistically significant & he must know it.


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 Post subject: Re: Double standards - Weather/Climate
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:03 pm 
---here, 30 miles south west of London it was 91F last weekend; today, Saturday 29th May, it's 56F. Typical English 'weather'.


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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:52 pm 

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The BBC's once-arch-Warmist Harrabin seems to have had a change of heart. Amazing article in which the Warmists get a bit of a pasting:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_ ... 178454.stm

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 Post subject: Re: Double standards - Weather/Climate
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:35 pm 
Jayson wrote:
---here, 30 miles south west of London it was 91F last weekend; today, Saturday 29th May, it's 56F. Typical English 'weather'.


One is climate change and the other is weather.


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 Post subject: Re: Double standards
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:47 pm 
The woolly world of Chris Huhne

Two events last week led me to muse on the links between the man who is now our Energy and Climate Change Secretary, Chris Huhne, and the extinction of the woolly mammoth. A team of scientists suggest in Nature Geoscience that the sudden extinction of the mammoths some 12,000 years ago, as the world emerged from the last ice age, may have had a dramatic effect on the Earth’s climate. They argue that the emission by these giant herbivores of nine million tons a year of methane, a greenhouse gas 25 times more powerful than CO2, was so significant that their disappearance led to a sharp drop in global temperatures, and the world temporarily froze over again in the re-glaciation known as the Younger Dryas.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu ... Huhne.html

Cart before horse or something, I'm not sure. Help.


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