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 Post subject: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:42 pm 
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Delingpole over on his blog tells us that it's "time to get angry" over global warming. And if you needed any more reasons than you have already, then the story in The Register is a good place to start.

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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:00 pm 
I am a signed up member of the Conservative Party. I am not happy. I shall not be voting for Dave at the General Election unless.........

I am sure Dave's office must check these blogs, so take note, Conservative HQ: you've lost my vote.

That's 1.

Start counting.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:29 pm 
Although electioneering has begun with some rather wobbly-upper-lip-tears we still have no declaration of hostilities. The current Parliament will cease to exist at midnight on Monday 10 May 2010. A general election to elect the new Parliament must be held by no later than Thursday 3 June 2010. May is the bookies favourite month (1/5) presumably to coincide with local elections on May 6.
I agree that although there is barely a fag paper between the Parties, this election is important more in what will not be spoken about than the usual schools, hospitals, crime etc...I've linked the suggested manifestos, but don't bother.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/electio ... olicy.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/electio ... olicy.html

The real issue is how much power resides in Brussels and how much more will the EU grasp in the next few years. The figure for Britain seems to vary from this Gov's disingenuous 9%, to Daniel Hannan's 85%.There is much confusion, deliberate and typical of the EU, over Directives, Regulations and Statutory Instruments. I'm certainly befuddled by what's going on. However it does appear that "72% of the cost of regulation in the UK is EU-derived. A shockingly high figure that needs no exaggeration whatsoever - just urgent attention." Of course AGW and the UN complicates matters still further. So I certainly would like some clarification of what is going on in politics today, in the run up to the so-called election.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:50 pm 

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I want:

Out of the EU
An end to AGW lunacy

But, most of all, I want a conservative government.

My only choice, therefore, is UKIP.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:55 pm 

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I think it was the Bundesrat that conducted an investigation a few years ago into just how much of their law is EU generated. They were suitably horrified to find that it was in the order of 80%. Effectively we have very little in the way of really control except with the Armed Forces and our economy (which BrownClown has appropriately cocked up). You don't need me to remind you that as of Dec 1st 2009 we became a vassal state of the EUSSR.

Baring a complete volte face from Shameron, I simply cannot vote Conservative. As RN points out in his blog, they are effectively the same.
This 'Climate Change' insanity just has to stop. Maybe the penny will drop with the population when the electricity and gas bill thud onto the doormat.

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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:32 pm 
I was hoping that the Conservatives will hold to their promise of having a referendum on the Lisbon treaty. But they found a way to weasel out of it. Now over AGW/ACC scam, the same holds. The AGW/ACC fraud on top of the Lisbon treaty has provided enough ammunition to unseat the EU, from these isles anyway, if not Europe. Yet the Tories like Zombies. When added to the lack of serious policies on several issues

1. The serious problem we have with a militant immigrant community that threatens to subvert the UK.

2. The ever worsening law and order situation

3. Education

I see nothing to hope from the Conservatives. I would much rather give my vote to Labour or the BNP, as the best way to come out of this disaster is to hit rick bottom asap - thus vote Labour or BNP. A vote for the Tories only prolongs the misery and delays the time when hard measures need to be taken.

A similar tactical move was taken in America by many genuine conservatives. A vote for McCain was seen as simply a vote for Obama lite. Genuine conservatives would have been unable to oppose a Republican president, if McCain had become president. Now we see that a full blown socialist Obama (not much different from McCain), has energised the Republican movement at the grass roots. The Tea part movement is a sign of that.

I wonder of we can organise a Real Ale Party movement in Britain? If this does not wake up the citizenry, I do know not what will.

Besides I do not like to give my vote to a party, whose leader seems to think that the election is his by default.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:46 pm 
Sailor wrote:
I think it was the Bundesrat that conducted an investigation a few years ago into just how much of their law is EU generated. They were suitably horrified to find that it was in the order of 80%. Effectively we have very little in the way of really control except with the Armed Forces and our economy (which BrownClown has appropriately cocked up). You don't need me to remind you that as of Dec 1st 2009 we became a vassal state of the EUSSR.


Unfortunately as far as I can tell, post-Lisbon, U.K. foreign policy is no longer under our control - Articles 24 through 42 in the Lisbon-amended Maastricht treaty make it very clear who is in charge. Note that this also includes the French and UK permanent positions on the UN security council now being regarded as a single EU position.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:21 pm 
Selling a country house and farmyard has taken two years and counting. We've had three bat surveys (none), two newt surveys (none) and two barn owl surveys (one or two around but can easily be renested). This has all taken two years - so far. But this week we hear that the surveys have to done all over again, as we have to resubmit application for another reason. The tenant moved out two years ago and after no occupation for two years the property is going into disrepair. Builders cannot be hired and paid. People needing housing are homeless. Taxes are not paid. I cannot invest the money. Who exactly is gaining? One very expensive barn owl.

I could build a barn owl sanctuary for hundreds of barn owls for the money that's been wasted.

But then no doubt, one very self-satisfied planning officer feels he has justified his pay rise, bonus and inflation-proofed pension.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:23 pm 

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Again a top post.

Truly scary. Luckily the message is getting out and once we get yet another neutered government, that has to impose the never ending lunacy that pours forth from Brussels, even more people will realise what has happened and vote accordingly.

The Green Tosser lost my vote ages ago and I have never voted anything but Tory in a GE apart from the Referendum party once......Voted UKIP in recent Euro elections and it felt good, as I didn't have to hold my nose.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:29 pm 
Another reason why the EU is a bloody downright bunch of fraudsters:

http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/

Why isnt this being reported in MSM????

Oh forgot, most of 'em love the EU


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:12 pm 
People getting very angry with all things from Europe..

<b>Somali mother of four has no right to live here... but we have to give her a council house</b>

Standing proudly with her arm draped over her 36in television, this is the Somali woman who must be given a council house even though she has no right to live in Britain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... uling.html


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:40 pm 
Nigel is getting angry in the Politeuro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxESjGmqqw4

You have to give it to him he is funny - and to the point


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:40 pm 
I originally dropped in from Defence of the Realm and became at first astonished then infuriated by the AGW fraud. Now, learning how the EU really works, I'm questioning what we're defending. I was going to have a snifter before shuteye, but now, after reading Richard's latest post, I'll probably empty the bottle :)


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 Post subject: Call PETA
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:01 am 
Is that fur she's wearing?


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 Post subject: Re: Getting angry
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:33 am 
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The fragrant (-looking, from the snap) Jacovella is the Scylla of our times and we are between her & Charybdis...a rock & a hard place.
Frankly, I don't know why we continue to go on about the personae & dramaturgie of our position in Europe...even though it may be interesting to know who's who in the scheme of things.
We have to get out...no matter what.
I will vote for any, any party, dedicated to getting this bloody country out of the EU.

Do I have to remind anyone that in order to be victorious against Nazi Germany we had to ally ourselves with the USSR...marginally worse than the Nazis, in order to defeat them?
I do understand the yearning for a conservative Britain but, Conservative voters, you will not get it from a party that is a mirror-image of discredited & hopeless Labour.
To hell with compromising the Conservative/labour vote...ignore your prejudices for a while...your freedom is truly at stake & neither Labour nor Torys will ensure that you have it.
Your Con/Lab Gauleiters may sing you the Siren song but...if you don't tie yourselves to the mast of pure reason, you will lose not only your freedom but every chance of redeeming it.
Just how anybody can be so stupid as to think otherwise is beyond my ken.

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