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 Post subject: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:26 pm 
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We learn from diverse sources that the Luftwaffe is to join the RAF in a fly-past over London next year to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain. The symbolism is of rapprochement but it should not escape notice that, with the <s>constitutional<s> Lisbon treaty in force, there is a deeper symbolism. The Luftwaffe, flying free rein in our skies will be a fitting and timely reminder that Germany has finally achieved, through the European Union, that which it was unable to achieve through force of arms – the subjugation of Great Britain.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:04 pm 
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What's the American position toward the European Union? Is there a coherent American position?

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 Post subject: Re: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:27 pm 
Richard, have a word with your military contacts and see how long MoD properties are going to be closed this year over Christmas and New Year. Can you believe they close them all down to save money on overheads and we're at war? That missed the MSM in the past couple of years.


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 Post subject: Re: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:34 pm 
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This is a democracy, which means we rule. It is us who let our servants get away with abuse of power and abuse of trust. By our inaction, we have effectively signed the Treaty of Lisbon. People climb onto the House of Commons for climate change beliefs or for the rights of fathers. We should be converging on parliament with bulldozers and wrecking balls to dismantle the building. How many protests have there been to save our nation?


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 Post subject: Re: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:41 pm 
Why not every 5 November or thereabouts we all dress like Guy Fawkes in V and walk to the Parliament ?

At least it would be a start.


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 Post subject: Re: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:13 am 
What a silly article! If you do not subscribe to the notion that the European Union is a Nazi plot (crazy nonsense, even for a conspiracy theory), then why do you imply that the RAF and Luftwaffe flying together has negative symbolism? Typical mumbo jumbo from foaming-at-the-mouth Europhobes.

Germany is one of Britain's closest and most important allies, and long may it remain so. It is good when European airforces fly with one another; it cements solidarity and makes them more interoperable with one another.


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 Post subject: Re: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:38 am 
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Good-old-Churchill wrote:
What a silly article! If you do not subscribe to the notion that the European Union is a Nazi plot (crazy nonsense, even for a conspiracy theory), then why do you imply that the RAF and Luftwaffe flying together has negative symbolism? Typical mumbo jumbo from foaming-at-the-mouth Europhobes.


If, instead of pontificating about "Europhobes", Eurotrash like yourselves took the trouble to read what I actually wrote, you would not need to ask the question. Clearly, as a matter of record, in WWII, Germany sought the subjugation of Great Britain. Clearly, since - again as a matter of record - Great Britain has now been subjugated, no longer being an independent state, a process in which Germany has been an active and willing participant (albeit failing to regain its independence in the process), then Germany has achieved its declared strategic objective of 1940. The symbolism, therefore, is obvious - except, clearly, to pompous prats like yourself.

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... It is good when European airforces fly with one another; it cements solidarity and makes them more interoperable with one another.


Provided it enables them better and more effectively to take out the European Quarter in Brussels, I would agree.

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 Post subject: United in a common cause
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Good-old-Churchill, are you proposing that Me109s etc should be interoperable with Spitfires, Hurricanes, & Lancasters? If so, you must be the one who is still stuck in the 1940s!

However, if German aircraft are to take part in future BoB fly-pasts, then the parade should also include other WWII allies' aircraft (old &/or new - US, Russian, Australian, Canadian, Kiwi, Indian, Brazilian, French etc ), & other WWII enemies also (Italy & Japan, in addition to Germany). Three choices - British only, British & allies, or British & all reasonable other WWII participants including enemies.

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 Post subject: Re: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:10 am 
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If, instead of pontificating about "Europhobes", Eurotrash like yourselves took the trouble to read what I actually wrote, you would not need to ask the question. Clearly, as a matter of record, in WWII, Germany sought the subjugation of Great Britain. Clearly, since - again as a matter of record - Great Britain has now been subjugated, no longer being an independent state, a process in which Germany has been an active and willing participant (albeit failing to regain its independence in the process), then Germany has achieved its declared strategic objective of 1940. The symbolism, therefore, is obvious - except, clearly, to pompous prats like yourself.


Oh, I read it very clearly. I saw that you stated that you do not support Nazi-EU conspiracy theories. But that's by the wayside. You still say that the United Kingdom (our country's real name) has been subjugated by the Germans, even if you also say that they have also been subjugated themselves. The fact that you felt the need to make such statements suggest that you had entirely a mischievous intent.

The fact of the matter is that nobody has subjugated the United Kingdom, except perhaps the Americans, who continue to maintain military installations here, almost twenty-years after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Why don't you concern yourself with that?

On a side note, if any country <i>has</i> been subjugated in Europe it is the Germans—via the EU and NATO. Hopefully, it will remain that way for as long as I live...


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 Post subject: Re: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:45 am 
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I know we have had Rotten Boroughs. We now have the Rotten Parliament.

We can easily list their political crimes and abuses and one day I can only hope that the British system will right itself again:

1. Allowing the subjugation of the United Kingdom into a superior state and government called the European Union. Passing law-making powers to unelected foreign persons.

2. Defrauding the tax-paying British people of monies for non-parliamentary purposes and goods.

3. Making themselves tax-exempt for certain payments from the tax-payer, effectively putting themselves above the law of taxation.

4. Failure to maintain the borders of the UK and passing treaties which give the same rights to over 400 million foreign persons as the citizens and British born people of our kingdom.

5. Signing treaties that make the citizens of the UK, citizens of another state with the rights and responsibilities thereof, without their consent.


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 Post subject: Re: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:08 am 
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Good-old-Churchill wrote:
Oh, I read it very clearly ... You still say that the United Kingdom (our country's real name) has been subjugated by the Germans ...


RAENORTH wrote:
... if Eurotrash like yourselves took the trouble to read what I actually wrote ... "Great Britain has now been subjugated, no longer being an independent state ..."


Oh dear! Eurotrash not only does't read, but can't read ... so it has to make it up!

Good-old-Churchill wrote:
...The fact of the matter is that nobody has subjugated the United Kingdom, except perhaps the Americans ...


Ah! The sterotype Euroweenie ... classic little Englander, afraid (and jealous) of the big, bad Americans, so goes running to mummy Europe to get his bottom wiped. Next thing you'll be telling us is that you believe in AGW and that we need the EU to save the planet.

And, BTW ... the United Kingdom is not a "country" ... twat. It is a kingdom ... it was a state ... comprised of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. They are still countries, even if the Euroholes now run the government.

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 Post subject: Re: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:12 pm 

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Is a trading name, if memory serves.

Either way, I think a nostalgic 'mock' bombing run with spitfire escorts is a little jaded by all accounts. At least they haven't dusted off the doodlebugs lol

So these are ww2 veteran aircraft, not contemporary active service, right??

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:37 pm 
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Is a trading name, if memory serves.

Either way, I think a nostalgic 'mock' bombing run with spitfire escorts is a little jaded by all accounts. At least they haven't dusted off the doodlebugs lol

So these are ww2 veteran aircraft, not contemporary active service, right??

"Look mummy an Me 410..."


"Joining the Luftwaffe's infamous Messerschmitts and Fokkers, which fought countless dogfights with Spitfires and Hurricanes, will be historic planes from the Italian airforce which flew alongside their German allies."

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 Post subject: Re: United in a common cause
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:00 pm 
I have read that an EU directive is to come into force at the end of this year which states that anything that is not specifically allowed by law will be automatically illegal. Can anyone say if this is true, please, and quote chapter and verse?


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