Guest wrote:As someone working in defence procurement I can testify to the way that the MOD structure is designed to protect the backs and reputations of senior staff, both uniformed and civilian, from any criticism on high that might arise from failure. Failure generally means project delays or not remaining within budget. What has happened over the last decade is a complex process, but essentially is this ....
Guest. Thank you very much for that very clear and informative contribution. I will undoutbtedly use elements of it in future posts.
There are, though, other elements which need to be factored in. The rot, I believe, started much earlier (the Nott cuts) and it is a matter of record that, by the end of the Major regime, the mess in defence procurement had reached crisis point. Something had to be done. Much has been said and written about Brown's parsimony in the Treasury, motivated, it is claimed, by his dislike of thr Armed Forces. But the reality is that, by 1997, something had to be done about MoD spending, which was effectively out of control, made worse by a military which had lost its way in the post-Cold War era, and was having trouble defining its strategic role, and the kit it needed.
The new government, therefore, did what any new government would have had to do ... seek to impose financial discipline and rein in the huge inefficiencies and waste already in the system. That it may have gone about it in a particularly inept way is also a matter of record, but the situation was made inestimably worse by a Department to which the very idea of financial discipline was an alien concept, and which reacted with considerable hostility (and arrogance) to attempts to impose any discipline whatsoever.
When the message finally dawned that they were not going to get their money unless they started playing ball with the Treasury, the second problem kicked in ... a Department which was essentially wholly inexperienced in devising financial controls built up a matrix of complex, inept and inflexible systems, based on what it felt was needed to secure continued funding, without addressing the underlying inefficiencies in the system ... or the organisational "pathogens". This is what Gray idenitifed.
Thus, we ended up with a grossly inefficient system, administered by a creaking bureaucracy, on which was superimposed an ill-conceived and inflexible financial management system, which simply magnified pre-exisiting flaws. From there, as the system continued to deteriorate, the "tick box", "back-covering" mentality really took hold as ever more people realised the system was not working and could not work. Thus the scene for the disaster was set ...
Subrosa wrote:I have to agree with Guest at 10.52pm. As I said in my post staff left the service because of problems. Richard, I know you've criticised me for not reading the report and posting, but much of my post's content was given first hand to me by a trustworthy source.
I thought it was important to my readership to name the people named in the report and that was the reason for the post. After all, I don't live a million miles away from the base concerned.
If there are inaccuracies in my post then please point them out, but don't accuse me of just copy typing the Times article because I did not do that in this case. I can be guilty on other occasions I admit.
Anyway, thank you for taking the trouble to read the whole thing. I too heard it's a hard read so I don't think I'll bother.
The trouble is that the devil is in the detail. What Haddon-Cave did - although he did not flag it up very well - was identify massive
system failures of quite staggering proportions. The limits of his brief meant that he was only dealing with Airworthiness issues, but it was very clear that many of the problems he identified have more general effect. Guest touched on some of the reasons why this came about ... I have added some others. The Gray report here is also very relevant.
See here:
http://defenceoftherealm.blogspot.com/2 ... y-day.htmlIn essence, we are looking at a system in decay, beyond quick solutions, with multi-factoral causes which have developed over many decades. In many respects, the people involved (named and shamed) were in positions where no one could have coped - the problems are too profound and complex. That is what I believe should come out of the report. There are no quick fixes ... the system needs fundamental reform, and that needs leadership ... at all levels, political, military and administrative.
At one level though, the leadership issue is crucial. Too many people were prepared to preside over a failing system, and keep their own counsel. For that, you need to look at the Chiefs of Air Staff, and the successive CsDS, who should have been making it very clear to the politicians what was happening, and demanding change. There is no record of that ever happening. To that extent, the military colluded in its own downfall.
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