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 Post subject: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:29 pm 
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In the News of the World yesterday, Fraser Nelson writes a piece under the heading "Condemned by silence". He notes that, three weeks since BNP's election triumph, no party has started to discuss immigration. Westminster parties have kept their baffled silence and are giving the BNP a monopoly over the most explosive issue in politics.

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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:42 pm 
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They're not going to discuss it because they don't even think it's significant. They are post-nationalists after all dedicated to the spread of "Liberal Values" through the EU project. They're also fathomlessly stupid but that goes without saying anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:24 pm 

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Honestly speaking: Does it really matter? You can't change your politicians in any meaningful way since you have single seat representation and not proportional representation.

Should BNP be elected to seats in the British Paliament it still won't matter since they will be a drop in the sea. The media will just ignore BNP and the problems that got them elected - like Pravda ignored the problems of Soviet consumer good production etc. - so honestly why SHOULD any politician give a (so to speak) flying fu**?

More over Britain increasingly appears to an outsider as a society ruled by the executive, not the politicians: I believe (but correct me if I'm wrong) that the democratically elected Ken Livingstone (former mayor of London) was summarily suspended by an oversight board of civil servants for anti-semitic remarks.

Justified or not - how much power does elected officials really have, if they can be suspended at will by their civil service? I even gather that municipial board members can be suspended in a similar manner for all sorts of alleged offences and conflicts of interests too. That same thing is slowly happening to your Parliament if I understand the posts on the expense scandals correctly.

More and more Britain resembles a run down police state - and I apologise for that remark, but it's the sad truth - operated by faceless bumbling bureaucrats in the pursuit of laudable but misguided higher goals.

Oh well, where Britain leads Denmark usually follows ten - fifteen years later


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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:12 pm 
Have you seen this Re: Daniel Hannan?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danie ... and-trade/


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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:12 pm 

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You'll get no sense from the government, that is a physical impossibility, they make headless chickens look like Einsteins. As to the opposition, they just seem to be waiting to be handed the keys, due to some kind of divine right.

Let's hope lot's of independents stand, though hopefully not of the fruitcake kind like Esther Rancid.


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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:09 pm 

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Mrs Thatcher made a promise about a register of those 'entitled' to come here but broke it once elected, using cost as her excuse (if I recall correctly), which is why the BNP is making such headway now. Grooovey* Dave's problems began thirty years ago when the English working class that had marched with Enoch Powell, ten years before, realised that they had been duped again. The time for the 'mature debate' on immigration which we are so often told we urgently need was 65 years ago and what we need now is urgent action. The only party offering anything approaching that is the BNP. It's no wonder that those who once cheered Powell (the youngest don at Cambridge and the youngest Brigadier in the Br*tish army, and the only one ever to rise to that rank from Private) now cheer Nick Griffin.

EU Referendum is one of very few blogs in which the authors are able to write about the BNP without needing to distance themselves from the party, something the 'quality' broadsheets are incapable of doing, and it is one of even fewer blogs in which the authors clearly understand the importance of the BNP to contemporary Br*tish politics. Mr Griffin and his followers can't break the mould but the successes his party is enjoying are evidence that the mould is being recast.


* Not a 'typo'.


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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:02 am 
It's a terrifyingly simple calculation: will the support for the BNP increase at a rate at which they could, as a British movement, take power from the Establishment which is flooding the country with 3rd-worlders at the rate which would keep them in power? If the Establishment wins, Britons will be rendered stateless and dispossessed in a land blighted with anti-white, anti-British, islamic racism.


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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:39 am 
This might be a good thing, if the elite ignore reality for long enough the BNP will, I hope, gain enough traction to have influence, and help create an enlightened public.
Good luck to England


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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:28 am 
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................Britons will be rendered stateless and dispossessed in a land blighted with anti-white, anti-British, islamic racism.


Although nothing is impossible, there is likely to be blood on the streets before that happens.
I would like to see a few BNP MPs if only to shake the current trash up enough to declare that they represent the English people...British if you will...and to get us out of the clutches of the EU.
Unfortunately the BNP still harbours statist ideas of its own and, if it is sincere in wanting a say in the running of our country, should ditch their Socialist stupidities & pay more attention to uniting the country instead of causing disruption. Leave that to the main parties who are doing an excellent job in provoking just that

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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:37 am 
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I always remember the essay by Farage which I believe you actually wrote. Tribalism is inevitable and can only be wiped out by wiping out the current population of humans and starting again. Immigration is planned in that the more people come here and destroy our culture and values the easier it is to destroy our nation.


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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:21 am 

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Bob said 'democratically elected Ken Livingstone (former mayor of London) was summarily suspended by an oversight board of civil servants for anti-semitic remarks.
Justified or not - how much power does elected officials really have, if they can be suspended at will by their civil service? I even gather that municipial board members can be suspended in a similar manner for all sorts of alleged offences and conflicts of . . .'

You are partly correct Bob. A standards committee ruled that RedKen should be suspended for his 'anti-semitic remark' but it was later overturned. After all New Labour's 'flagship' example of an elected mayor with executive powers couldn't be punished could he ? What would happen in Londonistan if the person with executive powers was suspended ? The buses might run on time (actually there is more chance of BNP getting an MP elected next year than there is of London buses running on schedule) !!

The second part of your comment is absolutely correct. Funnily enough it is quite often Cllr's from the 'minority' parties on local councils, you know Independents, BNP, EDP etc which get reported to the 'local govt. standards panel' by the majority parties and then get suspended. Cann't have minority parties interfering with the political cliques 'toy town' politics can we !!

Another poster referred to Esther Rantzen as a 'fruitcake'. Wrong ! David Cameron has stated that the 'nutters and fruitcakes' party is UKIP. British voters were so impressed by the 'fruitcakes' UKIP came second in the Euro Poll beating Labour into third place.

Stuart - I vaguely remember the article you were talking about. Any chance of a link/reference ??


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 Post subject: Re: Unsustainable
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:52 pm 
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Ivan The Yid From Bradfor wrote:
Stuart - I vaguely remember the article you were talking about. Any chance of a link/reference ??


http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/ ... arage.html

Give this a go.


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