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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:54 am 
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Climate change minister Stewart Stevenson said: "Scotland can be proud of this bill, the most ambitious and comprehensive piece of climate change legislation anywhere in the world." "As a country, we are leading global action and expect others to follow our lead as we look to the international summit in Copenhagen this December."

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:15 am 
"As a country, we are leading global action and expect others to follow our lead as we look to the international summit in Copenhagen this December."

Which is what it is all about,you can hear Brown say the same kind of rubbish,they want to be "global leaders" in something,anything.It is a penis waving exercise.


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An historic parallel here. PDT_Armataz_01_23


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 Post subject: Re: Mad ... completely mad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:58 am 
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An historic parallel here. PDT_Armataz_01_23


That is a fascinating tale ... which is actually very worrying. Once again, we are dealing with the psychology of the crowd - my very great friend, M. Gustav le Bon. It is clearly possible to "legislate" yourselves into oblivion.

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 Post subject: Re: Mad ... completely mad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:30 am 

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''fining people for putting the wrong rubbish in the wrong dustbins''
DON'T JOKE ABOUT IT ( shouting)

My home in Germany is an apartment building of 20 apartments in Hamburg, last winter at 7 in the evening (dinner time ) we had a visit from the GARBAGE POLICE yep they exist in Germany, complete with guns, spray and batons, it was because someone had put 3kg of plastic in the paper container, 15 police searched 20 apartments until 2 in the morning looking for traces of the same plastic, they came into my apartment pushing past my wife demanding that she show were she put the rubbish, then looked all over, in closets, draws, under the beds etc, ( 2 searched and one question us for 40 minutes ) Result! no plastic, no suspects, but €250 per apartment fine.
This is Green ecology, in the first stage.
the mentality of these people (yes you have then not only in Germany ) says, next time we kill you!

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 Post subject: Re: Mad ... completely mad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:46 am 

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The madness is beginning to hit home now : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8117704.stm

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" ... also began the tender process for a £15bn contract for the new cabling needed to bring the power onshore."

Because we have plenty of funds to spare ...

But it's all OK because :
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A major obstacle to wind was demolished when a study from National Grid last week concluded that the electricity distribution grid could cope with on-off wind energy without spending a lot on back-up fossil fuel power stations.


I'm still trying to find a copy of that report.


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 Post subject: Re: Mad ... completely mad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:47 am 
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If you don't like the idea of that pock-faced family of benefit claimants from the council estate getting their heads into the frame while you are trying to admire the Pyramids of Giza at multiple focal lengths climate change won't come quickly enough.

"Greenergy", being the most expensive form of energy money can buy, allows the aristocracy - and an 'aspiring middle class' - to distance themselves from the peasants. That's why support for the environmental agenda is visceral; it's greed.

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 Post subject: Re: Mad ... completely mad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:26 am 
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If you don't like the idea of that pock-faced family of benefit claimants from the council estate getting their heads into the frame while you are trying to admire the Pyramids of Giza at multiple focal lengths climate change won't come quickly enough.

"Greenergy", being the most expensive form of energy money can buy, allows the aristocracy - and an 'aspiring middle class' - to distance themselves from the peasants. That's why support for the environmental agenda is visceral; it's greed.


So the plebs freeze ... what then?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:07 am 
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The elites will discover the trough they've all got their noses in, and trying to get into, is not infinitely replenishable. Some of them will have to go. And they won't go quietly.

That will be an amusing one to watch. Let's just hope there are still deckchairs, televisions and popcorn around when it happens.

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 Post subject: Re: Mad ... completely mad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:08 pm 

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RAENORTH wrote:
mikgen wrote:
An historic parallel here. PDT_Armataz_01_23


That is a fascinating tale ... which is actually very worrying. Once again, we are dealing with the psychology of the crowd - my very great friend, M. Gustav le Bon. It is clearly possible to "legislate" yourselves into oblivion.


Yes, another book on the subject well worth reading is Elias Canetti's Crowds and Power.


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 Post subject: Re: Mad ... completely mad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:20 pm 
"So the plebs freeze ... what then?"

Then the tumbrels.


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With the Britain's Got Talent, Wikipedia and Intrade generation crowds have gained a reputation from somewhere for making wise choices.

Forget stampedes, mass hysteria, economic crashes, and blind devotion to a genocidal leader, a crowd can make one in every five winners of X-Factor a successful pop star...

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 Post subject: Re: Mad ... completely mad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:02 pm 

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It's all about tax and green especially Carbon taxes are the best invention yet, for politicians, because they are taxing something that no-one can see or feel and the entire concept is based on forward projections of a hypothesis.

Maybe it's about time someone used the Trade Descriptions act against this kind of tosh.


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 Post subject: Re: Mad ... completely mad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:19 pm 
The entire political establishment has too must political capital invested in averting a waming globe. Their intention, as far as I can make out, is to increase taxation allround, till it strangles industrial output. This will have the effect of reducing energy generation, and thus slowing down the "warming". This strategy has the very desirable effect of lots and lots of money ending up in the hands of politicians, to do with as they please.

All politicians take advantage of a crisis - the recent financial one being a case in point. If none exists, then one has to be manufactured. It is unlikely that after oinvesting so much political capital, politicians are going to turn - and thus lose the chance of getting their hands on vast amounts of money.


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 Post subject: Re: Mad ... completely mad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:35 pm 
I forgot to add, that after robbing the people blind, as well as strangling industry, global warming does not happen, the strategy will be hailed a resounding success. Its win win.


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