Giving them a kicking

[RAENORTH]

The election turnout next Thursday could either have nose dived, as people walked away from the election process as a whole, or they could flock to the polls as a protest vote. We wonder which way it would go, but now The Times seems to be pointing the way. Relying on its Populus poll, it is suggesting that we might make 41 percent, up on the 38 percent in 2004, itself higher than the previous poll. That is completely bucking the general EU trend, with turn outs of 12 percent expected in member states such as Latvia.

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[pipesmoker]

I intend to treat the whole process with the contempt it deserves, it's no longer worth the trip to spoil my ballot paper as they no longer publish the details.

[DP111]

The entire establishment -political, the MSM and ecclesiastical establishment, is urging people NOT to vote BNP as a protest vote. However, a protest vote, if it has to have any meaning or impact as a protest vote, must by definition, be against the wishes of the establishment elite.

[RAENORTH]

The entire establishment -political, the MSM and ecclesiastical establishment, is urging people NOT to vote BNP as a protest vote. However, a protest vote, if it has to have any meaning or impact as a protest vote, must by definition, be against the wishes of the establishment elite.

Ah ... you miss the point - you are only allowed to vote for approved protest parties.

[Guest]

I note that Mr Cameron (sorry Dave) is not best pleased with UKIP. This hatred seems shared by the Limb Dumps and Labour. Fine by me. That is my 'protest' vote as well as my conscience vote as I despise the EU and want this country out of it.

[DiehardTH]

Since i believe everybody with a vote should do so, and since i cannot vote for 'None of the Above' i will be voting BNP, if there is a candidate, UKIP if not, or a random independant if no UKIP - i hope that the turnout is huge and the protest vote equally big - this election needs to be exposed for the scam that it is.

[John Archer]

I note that Mr Cameron (sorry Dave) is not best pleased with UKIP.

Maybe so, and only maybe when one considers the present popular discontent. But why throw an egg when you can toss a handgrenade?

You do hate them don't you?

Well then....

[DaddyWarhol]

Ah ... you miss the point - you are only allowed to vote for approved protest parties.

That's precisely what the BNP say. They say the establishment uses parties like UKIP as a stalking horse subterfuge.

[RAENORTH]

Ah ... you miss the point - you are only allowed to vote for approved protest parties.

That's precisely what the BNP say. They say the establishment uses parties like UKIP as a stalking horse subterfuge.

You can more or less see the progression ... use UKIP to knock down BNP and then, in the final stages of the campaign, turn on UKIP in order to bring them into the fold. Sorted!

[DaddyWarhol]

That's what I mean when I say the BNP will be vindicated. That mediocre party are set become folk heroes.

[DP111]

My sincerest apologies to all. We are indeed truly blest in this country, for the powers that be, have thoughtfully created a safe and hygienic (HSE approved) channel for protest votes.

I hope I will not be prosecuted for a thought crime. Thanks to RAENorth, for pointing out the error of my ways.

[Allan_Aberdeen]

DP111's point made at 10.17 is beyond dispute so I have posted it elsewhere though mentioned the source. I have been saying for some time now that UKIP is the licensed 'anti-EU' protest party and the fact that the entire Establishment is denigrating the BNP, even though polls say 5%, is clear proof of what I have said and the concise point made by DP111. The only really effective vote is for the BNP.

[Derek W Buxton]

The games is up, Hague has surely now given the game away. When asked what "We shall not leave it there" in relation to the Lisbon/Constitution treaty means, he is reported as saying that we have to allow the EU to have legislative powers so as to be able to trade with the members. A statement which is a lie and clearly shows that they intend to go ahead with the EU plan. Yes, we all knew we were being scammed but this is fronm Camerons senior Shadow Cabinet Minister.

Silly me, I thought Sovereign Countries could sign treaties with other Countries to enhance trade etc, we trade with China but I never knew we were part of it. Someone alter the map whilst I was asleep????

Derek

[DaddyWarhol]

They must all die.

[themanfromUNCLE]

I will look with interest at the post european 'election' result on the Labour party. If, as suggested, they fall behind UKIP, the media will have a field day (with both the liberal/left stating that Brown has failed to see off an 'extremist party' and the 'right' crowing that the 'protest' vote is in and Labour's stance on the EU is wrong.) Either way, the 'comrades' will fall on Brown with a vengeance. Whatever he states he will be forced from office, Labour will be paralysed with infighting and whoever takes over will be doomed to see the party go down in flames at the next national election.

Dave 'Boy Green' Cameron, in his quest to take the keys to Number 10, will have to start out UKIPing UKIP to score political brownie points and in an age when it looks like we will start to hold the bastards to account will have to start delivering on his promises.

I look forward to all of that as a good start and only as a good start to forcing the EU issue to the fore of national political debate.