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 Post subject: Keep the politicians out of it
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:17 pm 
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On the back of the Populus poll which brought us the current expectations on the euro-elections also come indications of support for "radical" reform of parliament. The trouble is that was not an open-ended survey of course – not that it could have been. Instead, the company put to respondents a series of proposed reforms to the system – ones that it had identified.

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 Post subject: Re: Keep the politicians out of it
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:12 am 
The problem is with the minds of politicians, not with the mechanisms they use. There's supposed to be an old Chinese proverb that in the hands of the wrong man, even the right methods produce wrong results.


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:33 am 
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Odins Raven wrote:
The problem is with the minds of politicians, not with the mechanisms they use. There's supposed to be an old Chinese proverb that in the hands of the wrong man, even the right methods produce wrong results.


That is indeed why they must be kept out of the loop. The players should not be making the rules.

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:33 am 
Proportional representation is simply a way for governmetns to be formed behind closed doors. I*t allowes tyhe unelected to be part of governmetn. The cocnept musat be fought at every turn.


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Michael Portillo writes an interesting article today in the Times Online in which he suggests how the Cabinet might react to a spectacular defeat for the Labour party in Thursday's County Council & Euro elections. It's entitled "Johnson alone can stop the Tories". See here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 395925.ece

He also recommends that any new Labour PM should hold a general election within 100 days of entering office as PM (quite agreed to that). Though I doubt if Johnson (if he is the winner) has the political savvy & guts to do it, if he offered a re-think on the Lisbon Treaty, that would really put the pressure on Cameron. Let's wait & see. It's not long now to Thursday & its elections.

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 Post subject: Re: Keep the politicians out of it
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:00 pm 

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If, on the other hand, Labour dithering leaves Brown in post, then the party cannot be surprised if victory goes to Cameron. He shows a steely will to win.


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